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Old 23rd June 2013, 09:46 PM
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Most TVs these days have a digital terrestrial tuner built into them.
So yes.
But not all have HD digital tuners built in to them.


I don't thin there is an official freesat box that does digital terrestrial also - why would Freesat do a box for a "rival" service ?

But there are plenty of "non brand" boxes that are can receive both digital terrestrial and digital satellite channels - so called "combo" boxes.

Connect to a TV aerial and it will get the digital terrestrial channels.
Connect to a dish aligned to UK TV at 28 east (astra 2s) and it will get the "free to air" channels - ie those that do not require a viewing card to watch - ie those channels available on Freesat.

Thanks for that, I'm not too worried about brand really that want to pick up the free channels.

OK if we had two dishes one for UK and one for French tv will that require two boxes as well or will a good combo box cover it?

Turns out our TV has the card slot too, what else other than goal tv can that do?
Sorry for asking questions you probably have heard a million times.

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Do any of the Spanish television companies, such as Canal+ provide a decent amount of English television channels?

I'd always wondered if any of the Spanish companies had thought to cash in on the British (and other English speaking) immigrants to the country?
The only UK channels they show are ones like Sky News Int, BBC Worlds, CNN.

However, generally, if the programme is a UK / USA import then most of the time you can change the language from the dubbed Spanish to the original english soundtrack.

BBC Entertainment / Prime used to be on Canal+, but it was removed - lack of interest??? Which is why it is available to expats around the globe as a separate subscription channel.


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If a few million Brits end up without UK satellite TV before the end of this year, then I'm pretty sure there'll be a market for UK Gold type channels broadcast over Spanish TDT. You don't need to be a "Spanish company" to do this. You just need to be somebody with an entrepreneurial streak. Any takers?
But them most of the Sky channels, and probably UK Gold, are expected to be on the "easy to receive" European beam, so you will always receive some uK TV channels via satellite, but maybe not the ones you want!

I suppose a expat tv channel on TDT would eb an idea, but again, would anyone watch it? It would be expensive to have up to date UK TV programmes on it, as they would be competing for rights from the more established and better funded Spanish TV companies (Downton, Dr WHo Merlin, Top Gear are all on Spanish TV),

In fact I am sure I saw old Red Dwarfs on Spanish TV a few weeks ago...

So whoever is "up for it" would have to ensure that they would get the revenue to pay for all the rights and TDT broadcast licences - which is highly doubtful....
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OK if we had two dishes one for UK and one for French tv will that require two boxes as well or will a good combo box cover it?.
Where did French TV suddenly come from.....
For French TV you will need a dish at 19 east or 5 west - as french TV is on two satellites also - just like Spanish satellite tv!
And a box and French tv card (TNTsat or Fransat)

So it can be done with one dish (28 and 19 east), 2 lnbs, 1 French box and card.

A "combo" box, as I described it was a TDT / satellite box.

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Turns out our TV has the card slot too, what else other than goal tv can that do?
The card slow can be used to read a card for an encrypted terrestrial digital TV channel.

So, if your TV is compatible with the GOL TV card / card reader (not all tvs are compatible) you get GOL TV and AXN as part of the subscription. And the free TDT channels.

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Lol, my wife is French so if down the track we could get the French signal as well then she would be happy.

I think that's as complicated as we want to make things for the moment but it's good to know it can be done.
And then the Satellites change over which may change things again I guess.

Thanks for the clarification on the combo box too.

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I just found out that Sky are charging over £200 for their standard HD+ box! That's making me rethink my television ideas now!

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I just found out that Sky are charging over 200 for their standard HD+ box! That's making me rethink my television ideas now!
It is usually free with a new installation by a Sky engineer in the UK as part of their "keep connected to a uk phone line for a year" deal.

Only if you do want them to install it or not to have it as part of their discounted installation agreement (ie connected to the phone line) will you be charged full price for it.

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Basically, my parents have Sky. I asked my dad to phone up and ask about getting another multi-room sorted, which I would take with me (if & when Sky complain about the box not being connected I'd simply start paying for a full sub).

He was quoted around 215 for a standard HD+ box, with no install.

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The only UK channels they show are ones like Sky News Int, BBC Worlds, CNN.

However, generally, if the programme is a UK / USA import then most of the time you can change the language from the dubbed Spanish to the original english soundtrack.

BBC Entertainment / Prime used to be on Canal+, but it was removed - lack of interest??? Which is why it is available to expats around the globe as a separate subscription channel.




But them most of the Sky channels, and probably UK Gold, are expected to be on the "easy to receive" European beam, so you will always receive some uK TV channels via satellite, but maybe not the ones you want!

I suppose a expat tv channel on TDT would eb an idea, but again, would anyone watch it? It would be expensive to have up to date UK TV programmes on it, as they would be competing for rights from the more established and better funded Spanish TV companies (Downton, Dr WHo Merlin, Top Gear are all on Spanish TV),

In fact I am sure I saw old Red Dwarfs on Spanish TV a few weeks ago...

So whoever is "up for it" would have to ensure that they would get the revenue to pay for all the rights and TDT broadcast licences - which is highly doubtful....
Even if some channels are still available on satellite, there might not be enough of them to justify the expense of a satellite dish/receiver. I imagine most people have satellite installed for the sport and the mainstream channels. They wouldn't do it just to get old reruns.

As for TDT broadcast costs, I get confused. I've read about the costs being high and companies struggling to make money, but then I switch on my TV and still see that same old biddy reading tarot cards I begin to wonder that if she can do it for all these years then surely anyone can! I suspect the real threat might come from the likes of Youtube though. You can already get many of the old re-runs there anyway.

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Has anyone tried using a Eurobox before? The people who sell it claim that it does everything a sky box does, but won't be losing any channels apparently?

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Basically, my parents have Sky. I asked my dad to phone up and ask about getting another multi-room sorted, which I would take with me (if & when Sky complain about the box not being connected I'd simply start paying for a full sub).

He was quoted around £215 for a standard HD+ box, with no install.
So you are paying the full correct price for a non-subsidised box.
Which is correct.

If you get them to install it, with the phone line connection, then the box will basically be "free"....

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As for TDT broadcast costs, I get confused. I've read about the costs being high and companies struggling to make money, but then I switch on my TV and still see that same old biddy reading tarot cards I begin to wonder that if she can do it for all these years then surely anyone can!
Its cheap programming, and low cost, as basically no rights to buy. They own the programming, they own the rights. If they did show other programmes then they would have to buy rights, which cost money.


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Has anyone tried using a Eurobox before? The people who sell it claim that it does everything a sky box does, but won't be losing any channels apparently?
Ha ha ha.
Its is a satellite / internet combi box that runs Linux software.
Should the satellite signals go, then this box will also lose them same satellite channels.
But you can use the software in the receiver to watch the channels via the internet streaming site - ie filmon. So you are paying for a satellite receiver, probably with some sort of with a monthly subscription for "maintenance", for channels that you can get for free on the internet from filmon
It is not even their own make of box. . On their website they have simply pasted their image over the receivers brand and name - which is a VU Solo 2.
And notice there are no prices on their website...


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