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I have a question on these.....for the last 2 summers I have sais to myself 'no, I am not buying an air con unit for what amounts to max 6 weeks of really intense heat where I am uncomfortable' ..... I am fine with the heat the rest of the time

But this year, I thought I'd look into a portable one as they are cheaper to run and more energy efficient in general.

One thing that is putting me off though is the hose - I don't want to have to put it out the door/window as this means having the door/window open (I live in a finca and so it is cooler for me to keep everything closed in the summer)

In Bauhaus today I noticed they have all their mobile air con units that are on display have a pipe run out the back into a 5l bottle rather than hoses attached. Is this an option does anybody know? It's a better option for me is it is!!

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Bear in mind that an installed system will also give heat when needed (unlike a portable unit)

On a portable unit the pipe that exits carries the hot air & this of course needs to be vented outside or you will just start warming the area again.
Not to mention that a good quality portable (normally italian) will cost a tidy bit more than a lot of installed units nowadays.

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I have a question on these.....for the last 2 summers I have sais to myself 'no, I am not buying an air con unit for what amounts to max 6 weeks of really intense heat where I am uncomfortable' ..... I am fine with the heat the rest of the time

But this year, I thought I'd look into a portable one as they are cheaper to run and more energy efficient in general.

One thing that is putting me off though is the hose - I don't want to have to put it out the door/window as this means having the door/window open (I live in a finca and so it is cooler for me to keep everything closed in the summer)

In Bauhaus today I noticed they have all their mobile air con units that are on display have a pipe run out the back into a 5l bottle rather than hoses attached. Is this an option does anybody know? It's a better option for me is it is!!

Firstly, I don't agree that they are more economical to run than a 'proper' unit.

Ours has a tube for the water (this can be fed into a container) but also has a large tube to expel all hot air - we have the same issue and don't know how to put this through a window. Our windows swing open so even with the plate that comes with the unit, there are gaps top and bottom.

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Hi thanks, no problem with heating as the chimenea gives plenty of heat for the whole house when it's cold and yes I understand cost

I just don't understand what the pipe is for going into the 5l container and if this is usable instead of the hose that goes outside as they have on display

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Firstly, I don't agree that they are more economical to run than a 'proper' unit.

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I simply meant in the current times, i.e. a few years ago they were quite energy consuming and electrical bills would have been huge using them whereas their consumption has got better recently if you choose wisely - I did not mean in comparison to a fixed unit

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The hose that you mention is for the water that condenses when the unit is working. Ours (just taken a look) has a bucket to catch this water.

The main 'hose' is 6inches in diameter and expels the hot air.

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Our one has a built in tank to catch the water that condenses from the cooled air and this has to be drained off (but it like fridge defrostings, it is distilled water and suitable for a steam iron, etc.) It also has the big tube to vent the heat taken from the cooled air and, as others have said, the problem is getting the hot air outside without it, plus the original hot air from outside, getting in.

Our built-in units (Daewoo) cost about €350 each installed and also provide some heating during the winter. They are inverter types so that the fan speed varies according to demand rather than stay on until it is too cold, then switch off until it is too warm, then switch on, etc. - they are supposed to be more efficient with regard to running costs.

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As snikpoh says you can place the condenser pipe in a container to catch the water but keep an eye on it as it fills quite quickly
Also usually theres a small tap on the bottom or a bung take the unit outside and remove the tap or bung and empty the water out by tilting the unit to the back until water stops coming out
One other thing they are very costly to run mine in my house cost approximately € 50 a week extra on my monthly leccy bill so your warned they are not cheap to run

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You live in a finca - How many floors?

Do you have an attic with any windows? If so why not use the Moorish system and bring air in from a cool part (usually a shaded patio with water fountains or you can draw it through damp muslin which cools it and traps any dust) pass it up through the entire house to exit from the uppermost level. That was the purpose of those towers you see on many Moorish buildings and one I used to use in a block of flats where we lived in UK.

Apart from changing/topping up the water and rinsing out the muslin, the running costs are nil!

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The fixed units are not any more economical than the portable units, or vice versa.
Their efficiency has nothing to do with whether fixed or portable.
Their power consumption is fixed at whatever is designed in to the unit.

A (say) 1kw unit will use one kilowatt of electricity per hour of use, whether it's stuck on the wall or stood on the floor. A 2 kw will use 2kw of electricity per hour, etc.

The way to make them APPEAR more efficient is to close all windows and doors, to stop warm air getting in, and shade all windows exposed to direct sun, so stop heat absorption through the glass. Thus the unit will not have to run for as long before it gets the internal room temperature down to the level that you've set.
That doesn't make the unit more efficient. (You physically cannot get more than 1 kw of energy from 1 kw of electricity). It just means it's not running for as long.

If using a portable unit, just make some sort of board/plate out of wood/ply/cardboard that blocks all the gap around the exhaust pipe where it exits through a window...to stop warm air getting back in again.

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