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Old 14th August 2020, 05:13 PM
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Despite being touted as infamous, i had never heard of it, but here's a video about it
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c008ql151e1t/gibraltar
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Despite being touted as infamous, i had never heard of it, but here's a video about it
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c008ql151e1t/gibraltar
The video won't play for me, unfortunately. Is it the cave where they discovered the remains of Neanderthals, making Gibraltar one of the last places in Europe where they lived? I'd heard of that but not by that name. Presumably it's a military thing.

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The video won't play for me, unfortunately. Is it the cave where they discovered the remains of Neanderthals, making Gibraltar one of the last places in Europe where they lived? I'd heard of that but not by that name. Presumably it's a military thing.
"This tiny territory on Spain’s southern tip has been the subject of fierce diplomatic wrangling for years. Spain claims sovereignty, but it’s been ruled by Britain since 1713. Dominating the territory is the famous limestone Rock of Gibraltar promontory, which was once considered one of the two Pillars of Hercules and later become a prized military asset, especially during World War Two.
Today, work inside the Rock is revealing thousands of years of history, including information on how it was repurposed as a military headquarters during the war. There are many miles of tunnels inside, more than twice the amount of roads on the outside. Once considered an urban myth, evidence of a top-secret plan to hide spies inside a cave in the Rock has been also discovered. Now, up to 30 people a year can visit this secret location."


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"This tiny territory on Spain’s southern tip has been the subject of fierce diplomatic wrangling for years. Spain claims sovereignty, but it’s been ruled by Britain since 1713. Dominating the territory is the famous limestone Rock of Gibraltar promontory, which was once considered one of the two Pillars of Hercules and later become a prized military asset, especially during World War Two.
Today, work inside the Rock is revealing thousands of years of history, including information on how it was repurposed as a military headquarters during the war. There are many miles of tunnels inside, more than twice the amount of roads on the outside. Once considered an urban myth, evidence of a top-secret plan to hide spies inside a cave in the Rock has been also discovered. Now, up to 30 people a year can visit this secret location."


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Yes not only during the Second World War but following that during the early
years of the Cold War the UK, USA and most of Western Europe feared that
the Soviet Union might easily decide to invade Western Europe, after taking over
Eastern Europe and bring those countries into the Communist bloc.

Therefore the newly formed NATO in the 1950's 'flushed with the success' of
SOE in occupied France, decided to set up a 'stay behind' network not only
in NATO countries but also in non-aligned countries like Sweden, Switzerland
and Spain.

So that when the Soviet & Warsaw Pact invasion comes, these secret 'stay
behind paramilitary armies' would go underground before popping up again
behind enemy lines and do a host of things like intelligence gathering &
reporting as well as wreaking mayhem & damage in the Soviet rear lines.

NATO's Secret Armies only came to light in Italy in the 1990's amongst
much controversy over their activities in Italy during the Cold War.

After which other 'stay behind' groups were found in other countries which
were investigated & wound up as a result following the end of the Cold War.

The Soviet Union also had deep cover agents & spetsnaz's tasked to attack
strategic targets in Western Europe in the event that the Cold War turns
hot.

Operation Gladio - NATO's Stay behind Armies
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"This tiny territory on Spain’s southern tip has been the subject of fierce diplomatic wrangling for years. Spain claims sovereignty, but it’s been ruled by Britain since 1713. Dominating the territory is the famous limestone Rock of Gibraltar promontory, which was once considered one of the two Pillars of Hercules and later become a prized military asset, especially during World War Two.
Today, work inside the Rock is revealing thousands of years of history, including information on how it was repurposed as a military headquarters during the war. There are many miles of tunnels inside, more than twice the amount of roads on the outside. Once considered an urban myth, evidence of a top-secret plan to hide spies inside a cave in the Rock has been also discovered. Now, up to 30 people a year can visit this secret location."

The rock of Gibraltar 87years ago.Changed a but since then.


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Interesting stuff.

Lived near Gib for years and went there hundreds of times - never heard of it.

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Been to Gib many times when worked for P&O and others, never there long enough to go ashore. Pity really because my father was stationed there during WW2 until he left to be part of D day. I've known about the tunnels since I was a child, father told many tales. I have quite a collection of photos/postcards from his time in Gibraltar.
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Been to Gib many times when worked for P&O and others, never there long enough to go ashore. Pity really because my father was stationed there during WW2 until he left to be part of D day. I've known about the tunnels since I was a child, father told many tales. I have quite a collection of photos/postcards from his time in Gibraltar.
'' I have quite a collection of photos/postcards from his time in Gibraltar'',, maybe contact their tourist information or any history groups they might be interested in copies for their archives.
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