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Old 4th July 2020, 11:29 AM
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TIEs will be issued as of Monday 6/7/2020


https://www.boe.es/diario_boe/txt.ph...aV0ds8wtaxvcIc

We keep our rights as residents

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Esto implica que los nacionales del Reino Unido podrán disfrutar de sus derechos de libre circulación en España hasta el final de 2020. Por tanto, aquellos que hayan ejercido su derecho a residir o trabajar de conformidad con el Derecho de la Unión antes del final del período transitorio y que continúen haciéndolo después de ese período, tendrán exactamente los mismos derechos conforme al Acuerdo de retirada que las personas que hayan llegado antes del Brexit, encontrándose sujetos también a las mismas restricciones y limitaciones.

A few key points after a quick read. By all means add more if you read it.

Anyone not yet registered fills in EX20 & has to show healthcare provision & income under current EU citizen requirements.

Everyone who is already registered fills in EX23 & must have a valid passport, & obviously pay the fee (modelo 790, código 012).

A photo is required, NO mention of fingerprints. NO mention of showing income or healthcare provision. It's essentially a swap.

Residents who have been registered for under 5 years will be issued with a card with 5 year validity,

Residents who have been registered for more than 5 years will be issued with a card with 10 year validity.

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Do you know where this takes place? Oficinas de policía nacional? I presume you have to ask for an appointment?

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Do you know where this takes place? Oficinas de policía nacional? I presume you have to ask for an appointment?
My cursory reading suggests you have to make two applications. First, at the provincial Alien's Office, for the issuance of residence document, then, once the decision is made to issue you one, at the national police station for the actual delivery of the residence document. It also says that the first application may be made electronically.

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A long document but happy to see this part:

virtud de ello, los nacionales del Reino Unido, los miembros de sus familias y cualesquiera otras personas que residan en España con arreglo a las condiciones establecidas en el Acuerdo no tendrán la obligación de solicitar una nueva condición de residente ni someterse, por tanto, a un nuevo proceso de documentación, pero tendrán el derecho a recibir, de conformidad con las previsiones de la Directiva*2004/38, un documento de residencia que expresamente recoja su condición de beneficiario del Acuerdo de retirada.

At least we dont need to make new applications which would have been a nuisance.

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TIEs will be issued as of Monday 6/7/2020


https://www.boe.es/diario_boe/txt.ph...aV0ds8wtaxvcIc

We keep our rights as residents




A few key points after a quick read. By all means add more if you read it.

Anyone not yet registered fills in EX20 & has to show healthcare provision & income under current EU citizen requirements.

Everyone who is already registered fills in EX23 & must have a valid passport, & obviously pay the fee (modelo 790, código 012).

A photo is required, NO mention of fingerprints. NO mention of showing income or healthcare provision. It's essentially a swap.

Residents who have been registered for under 5 years will be issued with a card with 5 year validity,

Residents who have been registered for more than 5 years will be issued with a card with 10 year validity.
Wonder what happens after the five and ten year validity?
I WILL eat my hat if it’s as easy as this and all areas follow this
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So what then,
Those of us here with all correct paperwork and paying all our dues....we have nothing more to do and can carry on as before.
If so it is very confusing.

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A long document but happy to see this part:

virtud de ello, los nacionales del Reino Unido, los miembros de sus familias y cualesquiera otras personas que residan en España con arreglo a las condiciones establecidas en el Acuerdo no tendrán la obligación de solicitar una nueva condición de residente ni someterse, por tanto, a un nuevo proceso de documentación, pero tendrán el derecho a recibir, de conformidad con las previsiones de la Directiva*2004/38, un documento de residencia que expresamente recoja su condición de beneficiario del Acuerdo de retirada.

At least we dont need to make new applications which would have been a nuisance.
I think that's a pragmatic decision by the Spanish as otherwise if every British resident in Spain had to apply for a new TIE it would be a very big administrative burden for them. I probably will apply for one in due course, if only because it is proof of ID so no need to carry my passport, but there's no immediate rush.

I just hope it doesn't cause any problems for people if less than well trained or informed staff in various offices start rejecting the EU citizen resident registration certificates we have because they think we should have a TIE because we are British and the UK has left the EU.

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I received my permanent residency card only last January but I still intend to apply for a TIE card so not to cause confusion at any offices and to be in line with the Spanish citizens.

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I received my permanent residency card only last January but I still intend to apply for a TIE card so not to cause confusion at any offices and to be in line with the Spanish citizens.

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This is our strategy as well.

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I received my permanent residency card only last January but I still intend to apply for a TIE card so not to cause confusion at any offices and to be in line with the Spanish citizens.

Steve
I wonder what the penalty or punishment will be for those Brits who would rather hang onto their Green EU residency
card rather than change to a non EU TIE ??

Finally what happened with Guy Verhofstadt's idea of a new Associate EU Citizenship for those Brit's who have
full residency rights in their adopted EU country before Brexit ?
To quote one of Guy Verhofstadt tweets:
The EU member states should grant UK citizens living in Europe the full rights as they have today.
Automatically. No ‘ifs and buts’ here either.
Let's also come back to the idea of ‘European associated citizenship’ for UK citizens who want to keep their
link with Europe.

Here's more on Guy Verhofstadt's proposal.

The Connexion - Give more help to Britain's and EU citizens says MEP

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