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Old 17th January 2020, 10:22 PM
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Hi guys,

I am just starting out on applying for Residencia in Spain and applying for my Spanish Driving Licence.

One quick question, as I am a little confused by conflicting advice on a Residencia help site, and the NHS S1 certificate website.

The Residencia help site suggests that in order to apply for Residencia I would need an S1 certificate, while the NHS S1 website says that first I need to get the foreign residence.

Which is right? Which should I do first?

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One of the criteria when applying for residence is healthcover, weather it be private health insurance or an S1.
You cannot obtain residency without one or the other.
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That is what I read Monkey, so then to the NHS site to apply for an S1 certificate, and this is what it says:

Working in Spain

Spanish legislation guarantees the right to healthcare for all workers registered in the Spanish social security system, even if there’s a no-deal Brexit. If you’re working in Spain, you may have a Spanish-issued EHIC. This will continue to be accepted in other EU countries and the UK.

Make sure you:

* have registered for residency in Spain
* are properly registered for healthcare

I went on the telephone help-line, and in answer to my questions about pre-requisites for an S1 certificate, I was told I need the precise date of receiving my first UK pension payment, and before I could ask about any residence requirements for Spain I was cut-off, and the phone line then went to answer machine as it was after hours!

So, rather than read the advice on websites I wanted someone who has been down this road to tell me what they did.

I also have full private medical insurance, with Cigna (a US company), but someone else told me for private insurance to be considered it must be with a Spanish company, but the websites do not say that. So confusing.

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That is what I read Monkey, so then to the NHS site to apply for an S1 certificate, and this is what it says:

Working in Spain

Spanish legislation guarantees the right to healthcare for all workers registered in the Spanish social security system, even if there’s a no-deal Brexit. If you’re working in Spain, you may have a Spanish-issued EHIC. This will continue to be accepted in other EU countries and the UK.

Make sure you:

* have registered for residency in Spain
* are properly registered for healthcare

I went on the telephone help-line, and in answer to my questions about pre-requisites for an S1 certificate, I was told I need the precise date of receiving my first UK pension payment, and before I could ask about any residence requirements for Spain I was cut-off, and the phone line then went to answer machine as it was after hours!

So, rather than read the advice on websites I wanted someone who has been down this road to tell me what they did.

I also have full private medical insurance, with Cigna (a US company), but someone else told me for private insurance to be considered it must be with a Spanish company, but the websites do not say that. So confusing.

Thanks for the reply

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The section that you've quoted is headed "working in Spain". As an S1 holder, I presume you won't be working (generally, but not always, the case).

To sign on the list of foreigners (wrongly called getting residencia) requires health cover. An S1 provides this so is required BEFORE residency.
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To qualfy for an S1 you must be in receipt of your UK state pension.

Failing that you will need full comprehensive private health insurance which covers preexisting conditions without any copayment.

Whether your US policy is compliant and acceptable I couldn't say but I would very much doubt it.

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If private insurance is presented for "residencia" the requirements are full coverage with no co payments. Country of policy origin does not appear to be an issue, however it must be written in Spanish. The challenge that we found with our Canadian issued policy was not that it was Canadian, but that it was written in English. We went with Sanitas - Spanish but I believe part of the BUPA group.

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To qualfy for an S1 you must be in receipt of your UK state pension.

Failing that you will need full comprehensive private health insurance which covers preexisting conditions without any copayment.

Whether your US policy is compliant and acceptable I couldn't say but I would very much doubt it.
The S1 is issued by all EU countries, not only to pensioners, but also to those in reciept of certain transferable benefits.
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BTW residencia for EU citizens is no longer issued. It was superseded by resident certificate (certificado de residente) by the Royal Decree of 2007 by being entered into the central register for foreign nationals (registro central de extranjeros).
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BTW residencia for EU citizens is no longer issued. It was superseded by resident certificate (certificado de residente) by the Royal Decree of 2007 by being entered into the central register for foreign nationals (registro central de extranjeros).
We have pointed this out time and time again, yet people persist in calling it residencia. It won't matter soon anyway!!

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Re S1.

Who qualifies ?

See here :-

https://contactcentreservices.nhsbsa...o-i-obtain-one

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