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Old 8th January 2020, 10:59 AM
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This seems like strange advice; if you have a green cert, you are resident, and therefore must have a Spanish licence...
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There is a period of grace regarding residents being required to have a spanish DL. Details can be found on the Internet
@Overandout - you are confused. As a Spanish resident a UK d/l does NOT need to be exchanged UNLESS ;

(1) the expiry date is more than 15 years (which UK d/l's aren't)
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(2) categories C or D are longer than 5 years

@Juan C - There is no such thing as a grace period

This is all documented on the DGT site. /SNIP/

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I absolutely refuse to carry my passport with me so have a HQ photocopy in my wallet but if that should ever prove insufficient to convince whomever of my identity then I shall regard the short spell spent in a Spanish jail cell as an interesting extension to my lifes experiences.
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I absolutely refuse to carry my passport with me so have a HQ photocopy in my wallet but if that should ever prove insufficient to convince whomever of my identity then I shall regard the short spell spent in a Spanish jail cell as an interesting extension to my lifes experiences.
You don't need to carry your passport, nor the green cert with you by law anyway. The GC / Policía Nacional will accept an EU driving licence as ID, and if you can't or refuse to ID yourself, they can only detain you for 6 hours!

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@Overandout - you are confused. As a Spanish resident a UK d/l does NOT need to be exchanged UNLESS ;

(1) the expiry date is more than 15 years (which UK d/l's aren't)
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(2) categories C or D are longer than 5 years

@Juan C - There is no such thing as a grace period

This is all documented on the DGT site. /SNIP/
I read this

There are two different scenarios to which the law applies:

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Holder of an EU/EEA driving licence that never expires or with a validity of 15 years or more for Group 1 (or five years or more for Group 2) and having Spanish residency since 19 January 2013 or before. In this case, you had to renew your driving license as per 19 January 2015.

Holder of an EU/EEA driving licence that never expires or with a validity of 15 or more for Group 1 (or five years or more for Group 2) and having Spanish residency after 19 January 2013. In this case, you had to renew your driving licence after having Spanish residency for two years or more.
My understanding from my policía was fairly straightforward forward, after two years a Spanish licence is required. In fact, I know of two U.K. nationals who were stopped and warned about this as they were known to be resident

https://www.expatica.com/es/living/t...icense-473563/

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There are two different scenarios to which the law applies:



My understanding from my policía was fairly straightforward forward, after two years a Spanish licence is required. In fact, I know of two U.K. nationals who were stopped and warned about this as they were known to be resident

https://www.expatica.com/es/living/t...icense-473563/
Afaik there have been no changes to the law since 2015, when the categories of your licence were all-important - as it says on the link you posted, & the quote. Of course some police officers will ignore that, or not know or care about the 'fine print', & insist that everyone change it.


General advice has always been to just do it anyway, & it's all about to become moot, with holders of a UK issued driving licence having to take a driving test just like all other non-EU citizens.

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This from the DGT

https://sede.dgt.gob.es/es/permisos-...io/index.shtml


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Which is exactly what I said.

No need to change the licence UNLESS "the expiry date is more than 15 years or categories C or D expire in more than 5 years"

In ALL other cases, the licence is fine (until after the Brexit transition period)

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Which is exactly what I said.

No need to change the licence UNLESS "the expiry date is more than 15 years or categories C or D expire in more than 5 years"

In ALL other cases, the licence is fine (until after the Brexit transition period)
Point taken.

But it is not obligatory to carry the green resident cert with you, whether you are driving or not.

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Which is exactly what I said.

No need to change the licence UNLESS "the expiry date is more than 15 years or categories C or D expire in more than 5 years"

In ALL other cases, the licence is fine (until after the Brexit transition period)
Unless you have been resident for two years. Once you have been so, then you must change your licence.


I imagine that's the 'grace period' to which Juan C referred.
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it's all about to become moot, with holders of a UK issued driving licence having to take a driving test just like all other non-EU citizens.
But not ALL non EU citizens do need to take a test, it all depends on whether there is an agreement with Spain in place or not.

For instance licences issued in the following countries (and maybe others) can be exchanged:

Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Croatia, the Dominican Republic Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Macedonia, Morocco, Peru, the Philippines, Paraguay, Peru, Serbia, Turkey, Tunisia, Ukraine, Uruguay, Venezuela.

It's all down to the the 1968 Vienna Convention on Road Traffic where the problem is that Spain has signed but not not ratified it and it's that which prevents an exchange with UK.

UK similarly had signed but not ratified it but post the referendum apparently foresaw the problem and did so in March 2018, had they not then the issue would have extended EU wide not just in Spain.

Even at this late date Spain could ratify the convention and it's a total mystery to me why they don't or haven't because it would eliminate the entire problem at a stroke. I can't believe it's being done in spite (although I can as a money maker!), or maybe it's as simple as nobody in authority cottoning on to that being the core of the farce.


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