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My fiance and I own a property north of Malaga, aquired in mid-december 2018. Have studied the tax rules and I'm convinced we have to submit two different Modelo 210 forms since we own the property jointly. We do not rent it out, will not use it more than six months yearly, and we have no Spanish incomes. IBI, water, electricity are drawn automatically from our Spanish bank account. So I think it's really just the question of filling in Modelo 210 forms every December and setting up to have the IRNR (Impuesto sobre la Renta de no Residentes sin establecimiento permanente) drawn automatically too.


Still have a few questions though:
1. Does anyone here know if we have to submit our first forms now in December 2019, or can it wait until 2020 (as we only owned the property during the last two weeks of 2018)?

2. Was hoping to use advoco.es since our lawyer charges a hefty 200 E + tax for helping us out with this rather simple form (we're very poor at Spanish). But are advoco.es still accepting new customers? Their site seems to not have been updated since 2015, and their contact form seems to have been discontinued.
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3. Any other advice on alternative services for completing this very first Modelo 210?


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Can't help with your request for professional services I'm afraid, but yes, you will have to submit the 210 for both you and your partner for 2018 (I think that you will be charged a penalty for this as you are late as you had 4 months to present this first declaration after the purchase) and for 2019.

Be careful if you do contract a "professional", we had some declarations submitted on our behalf in which they declared that I had been the owner of a newly purchased property since the date of purchase, but on my wife's form they declared for the whole year. We had to pay the erroneous tax and then claim it back, which obviously took ages to resolve.

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A couple of friends of ours use this UK based service to submit the Modelo 210 returns for their Spanish holiday homes and pay the tax on their behalf, and are very happy with the service. It seems considerably cheaper than the 200 you have been quoted.

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I thought the Modelo 210 was to be filed in Dec the following year (in Dec -19 you submit the info and pay the taxes for 2018)? Guess I must have misunderstood that part. Hmm, wonder how much we'll be fined.

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A couple of friends of ours use this UK based service to submit the Modelo 210 returns for their Spanish holiday homes and pay the tax on their behalf, and are very happy with the service. It seems considerably cheaper than the 200 you have been quoted.

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Thanks, will definitely contact them, they charge less than 30% of what my lawyers asking :-)
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Can't help with your request for professional services I'm afraid, but yes, you will have to submit the 210 for both you and your partner for 2018 (I think that you will be charged a penalty for this as you are late as you had 4 months to present this first declaration after the purchase) and for 2019.

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I think this is incorrect.

You only need to submit this year.

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I think this is incorrect.

You only need to submit this year.
You may be right. I was going on the advice and actions of my advisors who, for a property purchased in September 2016, submitted the 210 in early 2017.

Maybe that wasn't required at that time, or maybe things have changed since then, but as I returned to tax res status in 2017, I have not kept up to date with the non-res obligations.

Apologies if I have given out of date info.
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I have just completed 4 210s for my son and his wife on properties he owns and they jointly own. Separate form for each person for each property. I have 2 more to complete for a friend who owns an apartment and a lock up garage

There is good info on line how to do it.

Takes me about 10 mins per form. I then print off one set of 3 pages (pages 3-5, the other two are instructions). I then pay them from my account over the counter at my bank

Incidentally. Tax residents in Spain who own property in addition to their principle residence in spain, anywhere in the world, which is not producing taxable income, is taxed in spain. It includes say a parking space in a community garage or a storeroom if they are not on the escritura of one principle home. Such properties must be shown in ones annual tax declaration, made in may / June each year. I pay in spain on a lock up garage in spain and my wife’s house in philippines!
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I have just completed 4 210s for my son and his wife on properties he owns and they jointly own. Separate form for each person for each property. I have 2 more to complete for a friend who owns an apartment and a lock up garage

There is good info on line how to do it.

Takes me about 10 mins per form. I then print off one set of 3 pages (pages 3-5, the other two are instructions). I then pay them from my account over the counter at my bank
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See Non-resident imputed income tax - Form 210 (2017 and previous) - Andalucia.com

Very easy to do once you've completed your 1st one.

O/P.....You could let your tax advisor complete the 1st year and ask for copies of the completed forms. This should help you for subsequent years.

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