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As you know the biggest complaint with DGT Trafico on the exchange of a British DVLA
issued driving license to a Spanish license is their reluctance or refusal to grant the
same classes of vehicle your entitled to drive on the Spanish driving license that
you enjoyed on the British DVLA issued driving license.

Also some classes of vehicle your entitled to drive expire earlier than others on the
back of the Spanish driving license.

Therefore I would be interested to hear of the experiences of those that appealed
against the limitation of eligible classes of vehicle on the Spanish license to DGT
Trafico or DGT Trafico's reasons or excuses for limiting the granting of eligible
classes of vehicle upon exchange - namely do DGT Trafico cave in and reissue
the license with all the aforementioned entitlements upon receiving the drivers
complaint or do you have to go through Lawyers / Abogados to get it done ?

Finally whats the reason for some classes of vehicle on your Spanish driving license
expiring earlier than others and what's the procedure for getting it renewed ?

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The period for which licences are valid varies in spain from U.K. and probably many other countries too. It is just their law

To renew a group which is coming to the end of the period for which it is valid, one does the same as renewing any DL

Hope that makes sense albeit you may not like that law
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Quote “Finally whats the reason for some classes of vehicle on your Spanish driving license expiring earlier than others and what's the procedure for getting it renewed?”

The period for which licences are valid varies in spain from U.K. and probably many other countries too. It is just their law

To renew a group which is coming to the end of the period for which it is valid, one does the same as renewing any DL

Hope that makes sense albeit you may not like that law
Some classes of vehicle require you to be given a form of testing every so often, e.g. PSV, HGV and this can be amplified if one has certain medical conditions which don't actually preclude one's driving a particular class of vehicle but periodically require medical verification that you are still fit to drive. For example, having had a heart bypass, i was retested every five years to keep my bus driving licence.

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Quote “Finally whats the reason for some classes of vehicle on your Spanish driving license expiring earlier than others and what's the procedure for getting it renewed?”

The period for which licences are valid varies in spain from U.K. and probably many other countries too. It is just their law

To renew a group which is coming to the end of the period for which it is valid, one does the same as renewing any DL

Hope that makes sense albeit you may not like that law
Well that answers my second question but there's still the issue of my first question.

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Some classes of vehicle require you to be given a form of testing every so often, e.g. PSV, HGV and this can be amplified if one has certain medical conditions which don't actually preclude one's driving a particular class of vehicle but periodically require medical verification that you are still fit to drive. For example, having had a heart bypass, i was retested every five years to keep my bus driving licence.
Of course the rules for HGV and PSV licenses would be different but my license is
just the usual 'run of the mill' photocard driving license issued in the UK after passing
my driving test and then exchanged in Spain minus certain class of vehicles that
Trafico chose to omit from my Spanish driving license without giving me a reason.

Anyway I'll name the category of vehicles granted on my Spanish driving license, namely:
B, BE, C1 & C1E

Here's the category of vehicles that was not carried across onto my Spanish
license from my British driving license upon exchange namely:
D1, D1E and then theres f, k, n, L, p

Any suggestions as to the reason why they are omitted and following on from this,
whats the procedure for getting them included on my Spanish driving license ?

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Of course the rules for HGV and PSV licenses would be different but my license is
just the usual 'run of the mill' photocard driving license issued in the UK after passing
my driving test and then exchanged in Spain minus certain class of vehicles that
Trafico chose to omit from my Spanish driving license without giving me a reason.

Anyway I'll name the category of vehicles granted on my Spanish driving license, namely:
B, BE, C1 & C1E

Here's the category of vehicles that was not carried across onto my Spanish
license from my British driving license upon exchange namely:
D1, D1E and then theres f, k, n, L, p

Any suggestions as to the reason why they are omitted and following on from this,
whats the procedure for getting them included on my Spanish driving license ?
D1 and D1E are bus licences for which you would have to take a test here in Spain. fknLp don't exist in Spain - how many milkmen pulling a float have you seen around Spain?
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D1 and D1E are bus licences for which you would have to take a test here in Spain. fknLp don't exist in Spain - how many milkmen pulling a float have you seen around Spain?
So what your saying is I cannot drive or hire a minibus in Spain ( no more than 8 to 16 passengers )
like I enjoyed in the UK without passing the appropriate test.

Although as f is a farm tractor, k is a lawn mowing machine or pedestrian controlled vehicle and L is
an electric propelled vehicle.

What category covers or is the equivalent of f, k & L in Spain ?

I wonder whether L for electric propelled vehicles in the UK includes all electric cars as well - whereas
in Spain, I assume there's no such distinction or is included in another category.

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It's true that according to the EU directive when exchanging a licence you cannot be stripped of or denied groups which you have entitlement to on your home licence, individual EU countries can however impose their own medical requirements to those and that's what's going on here - do the medicals and you can keep the groups.

It's the law and the way it is so there is nothing to appeal.

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So what your saying is I cannot drive or hire a minibus in Spain ( no more than 8 to 16 passengers )
like I enjoyed in the UK without passing the appropriate test.

Although as f is a farm tractor, k is a lawn mowing machine or pedestrian controlled vehicle and L is
an electric propelled vehicle.

What category covers or is the equivalent of f, k & L in Spain ?

I wonder whether L for electric propelled vehicles in the UK includes all electric cars as well - whereas
in Spain, I assume there's no such distinction or is included in another category.
I've told you what I know,for anything else you'll have to ask the DGT
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It's true that according to the EU directive when exchanging a licence you cannot be stripped of or denied groups which you have entitlement to on your home licence, individual EU countries can however impose their own medical requirements to those and that's what's going on here - do the medicals and you can keep the groups.

It's the law and the way it is so there is nothing to appeal.
When I exchanged my British driving license for a Spanish driving license, I did
so after taking the Spanish driving license medical which I passed onto DGT at
my driving license exchange interview.

Therefore perhaps it's like Baldi says, that there's an extra test, over and
above the normal driving test in Spain, in order to be granted driving license
vehicle categories D1 & D1E and therefore Spain assumes that DVLA didn't do
due diligence or provide the appropriate driving test in the first place for
British driving license holders with D1, D1E issued before the 1st January 1997.

In the UK drivers who passed their driving test on or after the 1st January 1997
only recieve entitlement to drive Category B vehicles on their full driving license
whereas those that passed their test before the 1st January 1997 ( normally )
got all these categories B, BE, C1 & C1E, D1, D1E and f, k, n, L, p on their
British driving license.

The only way a British driving license holder would have got more catagories after
the 1/1/1997 is if he or she passed their driving test in a higher category vehicle
and therefore would automatically be entitled to the lower catagories as well.

The link below explains it well:

Fleet News - UK driving license categories & what happened to Driving
Licenses for those that passed their test after 1st January 1997

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