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Just out of interest could Brits be overstaying their welcome in driving their Right-hand drive
cars in Spain.
Suffice to say the Brit in question, namely myself has followed all the procedures in getting
my RHD British car matriculated onto Spanish plates, when required after arriving in Spain
plus all the other requirements; with the only inconvenience caused to Spanish drivers
is when they laugh, seeing me get out of the car to collect my parking ticket
( on the left hand side ) in the multistorey car parks.

I have been pondering whether to go green and buy a brand new LHD Electric
car or Hybrid/Biofuel car but have always been put off by the fact that they are all
Automatic transmission cars. Therefore the only way to go green and still
be on Manual transmission, is to go for an Autogas car or what they call
LPG Cars in the UK but LPG seems to be in decline with most manufacturers
producing new Hybrid/Biofuel or Electric cars these days.


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Just out of interest could Brits be overstaying their welcome in driving their Right-hand drive
cars in Spain.
Suffice to say the Brit in question, namely myself has followed all the procedures in getting
my RHD British car matriculated onto Spanish plates, when required after arriving in Spain
plus all the other requirements; with the only inconvenience caused to Spanish drivers
is when they laugh, seeing me get out of the car to collect my parking ticket
( on the left hand side ) in the multistorey car parks.

I have been pondering whether to go green and buy a brand new LHD Electric
car or Hybrid/Biofuel car but have always been put off by the fact that they are all
Automatic transmission cars. Therefore the only way to go green and still
be on Manual transmission, is to go for an Autogas car or what they call
LPG Cars in the UK but LPG seems to be in decline with most manufacturers
producing new Hybrid/Biofuel or Electric cars these days.
I am completely the other road round, I haven't driven a manual car for donkey's years. I can't be bothered with all that gear changing nonsense I like my car to do as much of the work as possible so auto, cruise control - and preferably the wife doing the driving suits me nicely. I can't wait for self-driving cars to do the steering for me on those rare occasions when I have to drive.
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All "non-carbon" fuelled cars are in their infancy - battery technology has not yet advanced sufficiently. There is no solution just round the corner, technology will eventually catch up but I question if it will be in my life time.

Half the "un-greenness" of a car is actually making it, driving it is the other half. Therefore it is better for the environment to keep old cars going at their most efficient for as long as possible

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We drove our RHD Meriva here for about eight years before trading it in for an eco-friendly new version. There was a government scheme which contributed €2,000 to the price. Given the fuel savings, everything else being equal, it will have paid for itself in 8 years.

I'm not sure I'd want to drive an automatic round the town where I live, perched on a steep hill and full of narrow winding cobbled streets and anarchic Spaniards reversing down one-way streets in the wrong direction (they seem to think it's OK if you go backwards). But if I lived somewhere I bit less "picturesque" I'd love an electric car.

I think you're right about LPG going into decline, I'd worry about availability in the future.
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We drove our RHD Meriva here for about eight years before trading it in for an eco-friendly new version. There was a government scheme which contributed €2,000 to the price. Given the fuel savings, everything else being equal, it will have paid for itself in 8 years.

I'm not sure I'd want to drive an automatic round the town where I live, perched on a steep hill and full of narrow winding cobbled streets and anarchic Spaniards reversing down one-way streets in the wrong direction (they seem to think it's OK if you go backwards). But if I lived somewhere I bit less "picturesque" I'd love an electric car.

I think you're right about LPG going into decline, I'd worry about availability in the future.
Yes that was one of the BIG things putting me off automatic transmission cars in my neck of the
woods; as there's plenty of steep hills with narrow lanes & sharp bends in Asturias; that and the
fact that I've never driven Auto's much except when there's no other courtesy cars available.

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All "non-carbon" fuelled cars are in their infancy - battery technology has not yet advanced sufficiently. There is no solution just round the corner, technology will eventually catch up but I question if it will be in my life time.

Half the "un-greenness" of a car is actually making it, driving it is the other half. Therefore it is better for the environment to keep old cars going at their most efficient for as long as possible

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Also to cut down on greenhouse gasses and reduce our impact on the environment - were told it's best
for us to turn Vegan or Vegetarian !!

I wonder if thats the next big thing in environmentally friendly cars - motors that run on Veggie Power ?
Maybe even engines that run on Broccoli - that the kids tend to leave behind on the plate.



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We drove our RHD Meriva here for about eight years before trading it in for an eco-friendly new version. There was a government scheme which contributed €2,000 to the price. Given the fuel savings, everything else being equal, it will have paid for itself in 8 years.

I'm not sure I'd want to drive an automatic round the town where I live, perched on a steep hill and full of narrow winding cobbled streets and anarchic Spaniards reversing down one-way streets in the wrong direction (they seem to think it's OK if you go backwards). But if I lived somewhere I bit less "picturesque" I'd love an electric car.

I think you're right about LPG going into decline, I'd worry about availability in the future.
Oh, at least hybrids are not nearly as bad as you clearly think - I don't have one but I am speaking from significant experience driving the both in Oz and even more so here in France including in equally difficult areas to those you describe. LPG is what it says it is (liquid petroleum gas), so not a wise longer term investment. Electric cars IMHO will not get you around all of Europe and most certainly not around all of France. If I were looking to change my high eco version petrol fuelled Citroen now, I would choose hybrid. Hybrids also significantly reduce your fuel usage, but check on how and when they re-charge (I suspect they are not all the same).

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Brakes apparently contribute more to carbon emissions than fuel.

Re reducing meat eating or going vegetarian, take a look at the very recent IPCC report and the specific issues for Spain. But overall like it or not we are going to have to reduce meat consumption. That's actually not so hard for the Spanish, but if you want to continue to consume large amounts of meat you can expect prices to increase significantly in coming years. The G7, the EU, and individual countries are all looking at it and at the very least the EU is going to have to provide a response and take it into account in relation to future free trade agreements (including the one with Mexico and various Latin American countries).
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There is certainly an argument for not just sending older cars to the scrap yard.

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I'm not sure that keep an old gas-guzzler on the road is in anyone's interest. Isn't virtually all of the scrap recycled in some way?

EH you are quite right about braking. When I learnt to drive 15 years ago it was all about driving economically, slowing down by taking your foot of the gas well in advance rather than using the brake at the last minute. But my OH, who's been driving for decades, hates the idea...

However, we should really be trying to reduce car usage. How many journeys are really necessary? I walk everywhere but I see locals here driving round the village on short trips that they could walk in 5 or 10 minutes, it's crazy. Especially when they drive to the gym!
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