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I'm not sure that keep an old gas-guzzler on the road is in anyone's interest. Isn't virtually all of the scrap recycled in some way?

EH you are quite right about braking. When I learnt to drive 15 years ago it was all about driving economically, slowing down by taking your foot of the gas well in advance rather than using the brake at the last minute. But my OH, who's been driving for decades, hates the idea...

However, we should really be trying to reduce car usage. How many journeys are really necessary? I walk everywhere but I see locals here driving round the village on short trips that they could walk in 5 or 10 minutes, it's crazy. Especially when they drive to the gym!
It seems that there are issues with the recycling, so IMHO it's open to further consideration. In any case, we definitely should not assume that recycling is good per se, considering that it involves carbon emissions. I'm all for recycling, but it does need to be done intelligently.

I hardly use my car at all now, and even then it's really only to avoid carrying things that I can no longer manage otherwise - that's now a lot of things given my health, so I do as much as possible in a single trip and then unload gradually over several days (even one of those wheeled shopping trolleys, and I do have one, has become very difficult) - it seems that physically I am not ageing well

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It seems that there are issues with the recycling, so IMHO it's open to further consideration. In any case, we definitely should not assume that recycling is good per se, considering that it involves carbon emissions. I'm all for recycling, but it does need to be done intelligently.

I hardly use my car at all now, and even then it's really only to avoid carrying things that I can no longer manage otherwise - that's now a lot of things given my health, so I do as much as possible in a single trip and then unload gradually over several days (even one of those wheeled shopping trolleys, and I do have one, has become very difficult) - it seems that physically I am not ageing well
Sorry to hear you're not ageing well, it's a pain in the backside getting old. I'm doing everything I can to fight back, but I get really frustrated when I can't open a jar - do they put the lids on extra tight in Spain or am I falling to bits? We don't use our car unless we need to, once a week we buy beer and bottles of fizzy water - yeah I know, plastic but I can't live without a nice cold fizz and beer is non-negotiable! Walking or cycling to the shops / market makes the food taste better.
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Hybrids also significantly reduce your fuel usage, but check on how and when they re-charge (I suspect they are not all the same).
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While my Toyota was being serviced, I checked on the Hybrids on display - you cannot charge them except through driving them! There is nowhere to plug them in !!!

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While my Toyota was being serviced, I checked on the Hybrids on display - you cannot charge them except through driving them! There is nowhere to plug them in !!!

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There is a model (not Toyota) that I saw advertised that can also be plugged in - it is expensive of course, otherwise they charge whilst driving. But certainly the Hybrid vehicles I have driven all charge whilst driving, which is a blessing here in France, even more so for those like me who live in apartments and for various reasons cannot charge standard electric vehicles even at home. Renault do electric vehicles with a removable battery that I could plug in at home, you can even rent the battery though doing it that way is very expensive and if you are driving longer distances you need two batteries. Charging electric vehicles in a lot of France is not easy, yet there is a significant emphasis here on buying electric vehicles which are hellishly expensive even if you are entitled to a government rebate. Right now you are primarily paying for companies to further develop the research.

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Hybrids switch to fuel in certain conditions or when the battery is running too low.

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In the UK many company cars are hybrids because the taxes are better for the users. The BBC ran a program on how the vast majority never ever charge the batteries except when driving thereby negating the advantages of a hybrid.

The point is that by charging overnight the car is greener than by using fossil fuels to charge the battery.

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Electric cars IMHO will not get you around all of Europe and most certainly not around all of France. If I were looking to change my high eco version petrol fuelled Citroen now, I would choose hybrid. Hybrids also significantly reduce your fuel usage, but check on how and when they re-charge (I suspect they are not all the same).
Apparently this is the map to use when looking for point for recharging in Spain/ Europe. There are actually a lot in Spain, but not enough to make an unplanned journey in many areas.
https://www.electromaps.com/


People do argue that electric cars are not The Answer to the problems of pollution and or Co2 emissions as of course the electricity has to be produced somehow. However as far as noise pollution goes they are great, in fact they are so quiet they produce their own problems. They make so little noise people are unaware of their presence. Our car (Kio Rio) is also very quiet even though its not hybrid or electric and in residential areas we have to be very patient as people will walk in groups in the road and just don't hear the car behind them.
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Also to cut down on greenhouse gasses and reduce our impact on the environment - were told it's best
for us to turn Vegan or Vegetarian !!

And it is. Using land to keep animals to produce meat on the present scale and on the scale predicted for the future is yet another thing that is unsustainable.
However, people will not change their driving or eating habits until governments step in and prohibit this that and the other. Sad, but true.
In Madrid just recently the local government introduced a restricted driving scheme aimed at reducing the city's pollution among other things. The city centre was only open to public transport, residents and eco vehicles.When the new government came in however they wanted to overturn this. I'm not sure what's happening at the moment, but at one point the sale of electric and hybrid vehicles was rising like crazy, but only because restrictions had been put in place.
Oh, and people say that for these schemes to work there needs to be better public transport. From the people I know in the companies where I work, few people are interested in public transport and they wouldn't take it if the was a stop outside their door and it was FREE! What they want is comfort and to not have to think. Get in the car and go.
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Just to note

The abolishion of the ban on cars in Madrid, promised by the government in their election manifesto, remains in force following a public demonstration

PS just to keep my post almost on thread. That applies to RHD cars as well !!!!

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Just to note

The abolishion of the ban on cars in Madrid, promised by the government in their election manifesto, remains in force following a public demonstration

PS just to keep my post almost on thread. That applies to RHD cars as well !!!!
Sorry but are you saying that the ban or its abolition is still in force?

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