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I think the idea of having a medical to exchange/renew your licence is a good'un. I found the computer game thingy stressful, having to keep the two 'cars' on the road, then they test your blood pressure!
Quite so! I never play computer games so that test was pretty demanding. I consider myself, now 70, still sharp on hand/eye coordination but I hit the side of the road several times. The two staff and my gestora cheered me on, saying I was doing OK. I I would have failed me but they passed me.

Then the blood pressure test! OMG! 175/XX! They passed that, too.

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Captain. I understand it is not hitting the edges but your reaction to getting back on the road, which is tested

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LOL! and when did anyone last use the correct hand signals except of course the old universal one (you know the one) to let another driver what you think of them
Two weeks after turning 17, in 1968, I took the test. Never had any lessons from an instructor, just hours on Catterick Camp's Driver Training Ground with my dad, complete with Zebra crossings, 'traffic lights' and Stop signs.

Failed

1] Crossing arms going round a corner "Bit of a rally driver, are we?"
2] Not winding the window down and waving my arm up and down to signal 'pulling in to the left'. "Did we turn left?. No. What should we have done? ...]
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Who could pass a driving test in the Uk in English?' Well, I did. I took the bus driver test in 2005, aged 56. I completed the theory test with 100% and in under 5 minutes, They allow 20.

The Bristol test centre logged that as a new record time for a 100% pass.

Who's a clever boy, then?

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Captain. I understand it is not hitting the edges but your reaction to getting back on the road, which is tested

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Ps. I passed car and M/C tests first time without any lessons. Some years later did the car and m/c courses with the police and passed those too. That was all a long time ago !!

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Captain. I understand it is not hitting the edges but your reaction to getting back on the road, which is tested

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79 still car driver, 600 cc m/c and road racing biker
Ps. I passed car and M/C tests first time without any lessons. Some years later did the car and m/c courses with the police and passed those too. That was all a long time ago !!
PPS. When I was 67 passed car (30 ft motor home ) test in Florida after reading their ‘Highway code’.

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Captain. I understand it is not hitting the edges but your reaction to getting back on the road, which is tested

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Juan, as you have been there, done that - exchanged your licence for turning 70, can you [or anybody] clear this up.

Back in May I turned in my UK licence to get a SP one. I considered sooner rather than later a better bet, having just registered as resident and with my 70th b/d and Brexit looming.

My licence, UK or SP, would have expired 19/08/'19 and a new one for 70 y.o. then req'd. Trafico issued a 3 month provisional [which ran out 15 days before 19/08] and, 89 days after my application, issued a SP licence.

We [myself and gestora] presumed they had held off issuing a licence valid for only 95 days, issuing one starting from Day 1 of the 70. y.o. licence

This licence was post dated 07/05/'19 start and 07/05/'24 end. Thus my new licence will expire 95 days before I am obliged to renew it.

Is this standard practice or should they have issued the new licence dated from expiry of original UK licence?

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Ps. I passed car and M/C tests first time without any lessons. Some years later did the car and m/c courses with the police and passed those too. That was all a long time ago !!
Congrats! My bus driver instructor told me that the bus driving test [UK] is the hardest test for 'a driver not wearing uniform - poilce/military etc]

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I think you misunderstood what happened.

When you have a licence exchanged you get a temporary licence not a provisional, valid for three months, although another can be issued for a further three months, if the DL has not been issued for some treason. (Mine was once lost in the post so I need a second temporary one). That is because in Spain one must have their DL with them at all times when driving.

There is no special DL for over 70. It runs for the appropriate period, depended on age and medical condition, from the date issued.

From what I remember, my Spanish DL ran from the day I applied for it, certainly not from when my UK was due to expire, some 25 years in the future when I would have been 70 and, had I still been in UK, time to renew my UK D/L
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''having 2 driving licences is illegal''
That refers to two separate EU driving licences NOT expired ones kicking around in a drawer, doh!

EU rules mean that when exchanging a licence the most recent one issued instantly cancels and invalidates any and all others so 'losing' a UK licence in order to fraudulently obtain a replacement to hang onto when applying for a Spanish one is futile.

Surrendered licences are returned to the issuing authorities in order for them to update their records which means, for obvious reasons, it's the shiny new one which you will have to surrender, the cancelled licence you're left with being a completely worthless piece of plastic useful only for scraping ice off a windscreen!

Whilst living in France I had personal knowledge of a case where somebody did surrender a supposedly lost licence in exchange for a French one, he wanted to keep the heavier vehicle groups on the UK licence to be able to tow a double horse box and in France that would have meant annual medicals.

It was nearly a year later when his fraud was reported back to the French authorities by DVLA that the gendarmes knocked on his door and arrested him. He was taken to court, heavily fined, and ordered to take a French driving test before being allowed to drive again.

For anyone worried about losing entitlements on a UK licence then for 5 (payable by card but by phone request only) DVLA will send you a 'Letter of Entitlement' which lists your entitlements and in essence is what the Spanish will be requesting prior to exchanging a UK licence for a Spanish one, albeit I doubt they will be phoning or paying a fiver each time, but it's the process all the same. Obtaining that verification of entitlement, which the EU directive on driving licences requires licence authorities to do, is one of the main reasons for the delays which occur.

Although the document is only valid for three months in terms of possible future disputes with DVLA then even expired they they cannot argue with their own letter!


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