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Hi, I've just lost a brother and brother in law in the past month to terminal illnesses ( their passing was a blessing for them and their families) so I've started to think more about illness and elder care more. My better half and I are thankfully in good health and our mid 60s and hoping to move back to Europe in the next few years. Our choice of destination would more than likely be in the general Marbella area because of having friends who have homes there. However, I'm wondering generally about care for elderly beyond your normal heathcare situations. Has anyone had any experience with this?
I don't want to retire somewhere and find that all the expats go back home to their families when they get too old and ill to take care of themselves.

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There was another thread recently on the subject of nursing homes in Spain which you might find helpful if you haven't already seen it.

https://www.expatforum.com/expats/sp...mes-spain.html
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Hi, I've just lost a brother and brother in law in the past month to terminal illnesses ( their passing was a blessing for them and their families) so I've started to think more about illness and elder care more. My better half and I are thankfully in good health and our mid 60s and hoping to move back to Europe in the next few years. Our choice of destination would more than likely be in the general Marbella area because of having friends who have homes there. However, I'm wondering generally about care for elderly beyond your normal heathcare situations. Has anyone had any experience with this?
I don't want to retire somewhere and find that all the expats go back home to their families when they get too old and ill to take care of themselves.
Here is a village in Jaén province, we have the Residencia - local authority old people s residential care-home for those who need 24 hour care and monitoring. Most elderly people live at home and family look after their needs. However for those who have no family, neighbours keep an eye open on them and/or private carers go in and deal with their needs and, for some, all they need is escorting when they take a walk, in which case, a carer from the Residencia will visit. For those who need frequent domiciliary medical care (changing dressings, etc.) a nurse from the health centre will visit (she/he will also give flu vaccinations, etc. [gives me mine when she/he comes to do the m-i-l and also does SWMBO because she is the m-i-l's carer])
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Thanks for the link, Lynn. Some 'sobering' comments and info. We've never been ones to look ahead that much until just now - we've been more focused on our 2 sons and their families. Daughters in law aren't quite as invested as daughters so we're looking at our options long term.
Some of what Baldilocks mentioned sounded very much like what my very able and 'active' 95 year old mother has in Ireland. She has someone come first thing in the morning and help her shower and dress and another lady comes in the evening to help her get ready for bed. During the day she has several of my siblings drop in and out and help out. Her support is off the charts. There is a large Irish family and most live close by. We will not have that.

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I had to look up "SWMBO" - I should have known)
Isn't that from Rumpole of the Bailey!! One of my favourites.
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Thanks for the link, Lynn. Some 'sobering' comments and info. We've never been ones to look ahead that much until just now - we've been more focused on our 2 sons and their families. Daughters in law aren't quite as invested as daughters so we're looking at our options long term.
Some of what Baldilocks mentioned sounded very much like what my very able and 'active' 95 year old mother has in Ireland. She has someone come first thing in the morning and help her shower and dress and another lady comes in the evening to help her get ready for bed. During the day she has several of my siblings drop in and out and help out. Her support is off the charts. There is a large Irish family and most live close by. We will not have that.
A great situation to be in. I don't have a large family myself (in any country) and no children, so am conscious of the fact that if I am living alone in older age, it will be a question of either employing paid help in the home, if that will suffice, or a residencia if it will not. Since either of those is substantially cheaper to pay for in Spain rather than my country of birth (UK) I intend to stay in Spain rather than returning there.
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Thanks for the link, Lynn. Some 'sobering' comments and info. We've never been ones to look ahead that much until just now - we've been more focused on our 2 sons and their families. Daughters in law aren't quite as invested as daughters so we're looking at our options long term.
Some of what Baldilocks mentioned sounded very much like what my very able and 'active' 95 year old mother has in Ireland. She has someone come first thing in the morning and help her shower and dress and another lady comes in the evening to help her get ready for bed. During the day she has several of my siblings drop in and out and help out. Her support is off the charts. There is a large Irish family and most live close by. We will not have that.
What also helps in an Andalucian village (rather than town) is the people are much more connected so neighbours will also get involved, much as it used to be in the UK village where I was born nearly 80 years ago. If somebody in the family is ill or in hospital, neighbours will call by to ask what they can do to help and, if it is the man of the house, they will be by with the likes of a chicken, eggs (freshly-laid), etc. to help get him back on his feet and working!
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Something to possibly consider is ability to communicate in the spanish language, end of life care ,whether in an institutional setting or in ones own home could be significantly affected by level of understanding.
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What also helps in an Andalucian village (rather than town) is the people are much more connected so neighbours will also get involved, much as it used to be in the UK village where I was born nearly 80 years ago. If somebody in the family is ill or in hospital, neighbours will call by to ask what they can do to help and, if it is the man of the house, they will be by with the likes of a chicken, eggs (freshly-laid), etc. to help get him back on his feet and working!
I think it is probably the same in most countries. When I lived in London I never saw any neighbours. Wouldn't have known if they were ill. I live in a village now and when OH was very ill a couple of years ago I was overwhelmed with people offering help, even some I only knew by sight. Same where my relatives live in USA. I lived in a village on the Hudson river when dad was working in new York. Left when I was 10 but remember when he had a car accident neighbours helping out, lots of wonderful cakes and casseroles given too.

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What also helps in an Andalucian village (rather than town) is the people are much more connected so neighbours will also get involved, much as it used to be in the UK village where I was born nearly 80 years ago. If somebody in the family is ill or in hospital, neighbours will call by to ask what they can do to help and, if it is the man of the house, they will be by with the likes of a chicken, eggs (freshly-laid), etc. to help get him back on his feet and working!
This happens in my town (30,000 ish) which isn't in Andalucía.

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