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The Skipper 16th June 2018 06:33 AM

Free healthcare / convenio especial availability
 
I wonder how the government will fund this!

https://www.thinkspain.com/news-spai...thin-six-weeks

Pesky Wesky 16th June 2018 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Skipper (Post 14532932)
I wonder how the government will fund this!

https://www.thinkspain.com/news-spai...thin-six-weeks

Uhmm, cost is talked about in the article!:)

The Skipper 16th June 2018 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky (Post 14532952)
Uhmm, cost is talked about in the article!:)

Yes, I know, but does anyone really believe this can be done at zero cost?

littleweed 16th June 2018 11:19 AM

Hi,

Thank you for posting this interesting article. I don't see this is huge surprise since PSOE is simply returning to the (virtually) universal and foc system that existed prior to the 2012 reforms. The move was anticipated by the Generalitat of Valencia when the PSOE supplanted the PP a few years ago. Pretty much the first thing they did was announce free healthcare to all residents. So as a policy, this was well established.

There will be a cost but probably not has high as people might expect. The latest figure for coverage that I can find quickly is for 2010 when the Defensor Del Pueblo stated that 99.4 of the population had foc access to the system. I don't image the figure has changed that much but would be interested to see the current figure post 2012. So we probably talking about a 0.6% of the healthcare budget less the costs of the old system, emergency care (still free) post 2012 etc etc.

So very good news.

Megsmum 16th June 2018 12:10 PM

Will this bring the end of needing private healthcare etc.?

Lynn R 16th June 2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Megsmum (Post 14533058)
Will this bring the end of needing private healthcare etc.?

Yes, that's what I was thinking. How could people registering as foreign residents be required to show that they have adequate healthcare if it is to be available to everyone resident in the country? Although when we arrived in 2006, we had the old residual S1 forms from the UK which gave us entitlement to Spanish public healthcare for two years, but if we'd not had those we wouldn't have been eligible to register for tarjeta sanitarias and would have needed private healthcare because we were neither working nor in receipt of a pension, as indeed we did have to have once our two year S1s had expired. In those days you didn't have to prove you had the health cover to be able to register, but that didn't mean that you could just trot along to the centro de salud and register with a doctor.

littleweed 16th June 2018 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Megsmum (Post 14533058)
Will this bring the end of needing private healthcare etc.?

I think that we'll have to wait for the detail, however having read bit more about this I'm now not so optimistic. The new Health Minister is Carmen Montón who previously held the same post in the Generalitat of Valencia. A law was passed in there in 2015 (Ley 3) advertised as restoring universal health care. However, in fact it was much more limited that since it just restored access to health care to small group (illegal immigrants) who had that benefit removed by Rajoy's 2012 reforms. So this could be just the same.

baldilocks 16th June 2018 02:05 PM

Don't forget that the OP's article is just another forum's take on the subject and carries no weight in law

The Skipper 16th June 2018 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baldilocks (Post 14533138)
Don't forget that the OP's article is just another forum's take on the subject and carries no weight in law

The Spanish media is giving widespread coverage to the story as well:
La Sanidad gratuita a extranjeros le costará a España 1.100 millones al año - elEconomista.es

mrypg9 16th June 2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Skipper (Post 14532932)
I wonder how the government will fund this!

https://www.thinkspain.com/news-spai...thin-six-weeks

I have a novel idea.....tax the wealthy and crack down on tax evasion.

Nah, too utopian;)


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