Free healthcare / convenio especial availability - Page 3

Go Back   Expat Forum For People Moving Overseas And Living Abroad > Europe > Spain Expat Forum for Expats Living in Spain

Spain Expat Forum for Expats Living in Spain The Spain Expats forum is a dedicated community of people who have moved to Spain, or who are planning to. This is the place for Expats to meet and discuss anything about moving to, & living in, Spain.

Like Tree349Likes

Free healthcare / convenio especial availability - Page 3


Reply
 
Subscribe to this Thread Thread Tools
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 16th June 2018, 07:22 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Velez-Malaga
Posts: 7,265
Rep Power: 8500
Lynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond repute
8970 likes received
5489 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baldilocks View Post
Good luck, Lynn, glad to hear that you are much better.

Yes I'm grateful for the medical services here in Andalucía. Two years ago, I had a pain in my chest that would not go away, I was also short of breath. Local hospital did scans, decided that, to start with, I had pneumonia (brought on, I think, by very heavy pollen) plus there was a suspicious mass in my right lung (Ooops, one thinks, is it Big C ?)

Transferred to the pneumology department in Granada, many tests and scans (it gets quite boring inside those machines.) They started carrying out tests. Trying to get a sample of "the lump" proved unsuccessful, so they decided that they had better see how well I might fare if they had to remove part or all of my right lung (scary ) When they got me to do walking tests, I was all right at a fairly slow to moderate speed but when they wanted me to go a little faster, I got angina. Stop, Stop, Stop. Send me home and bring me in later for another attempt at getting a sample of the lump but, this time, by going in from the outside. In the machine, which runs up, they start looking at what is the current state of the lump, but it has moved and shrunk a bit. Stop again.

They decided that the "lump" was probably a mass from the pneumonia and will probably disperse on its own, in any case trying a biopsy from the outside was now out of the question since it would have collapsed my lung.

Fast forward 9 months to March of last year and I am having breathing difficulties and mild angina. GP decided to send for an ambulance to take me in to the local hospital. I had mild angina for most of the day. At 11.30pm I have the most excruciating pains in my chest and in my upper arms. Fortunately I had the panic button just tucked under my pillow and I hit it. I was immediately given an injection that stopped the pain and got me working a bit more normally and I was transferred (same ambulance and same nurse as before) to the UCI (oothie as they call it!) in Granada. Specialist eventually does a cardiac catheter and decides that since I have already had a bypass and two stents (all of which are now blocked,) nothing can be done so send me home.

My GP, by sending me into hospital when he did, probably saved my life. I now have a treadmill to enable me to exercise in all weathers, even in the heat (with the A/C on) in an attempt to encourage my body to develop new blood vessels to feed my heart.
My goodness, you have really been through the mill. I hope they are right and you can develop the new blood vessels.

The kind of treatment you and I have had (although I used my private health insurance to pay for mine on the basis that as we were paying the premiums we might as well get something for it, but I'm sure the treatment in the public health service would have been just as good) just shows what kind of financial commitment the Spanish Government could be letting itself in for if it did make universal healthcare available to all foreigners living in the country (which is what it said in the El Economista article linked to above). At a time when the Government is having to make a "loan" to Social Security to enable pensions to be paid, this move does seem a bit strange, but I guess we just have to wait and see.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 08:38 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 272
Rep Power: 0
Michael Kelly is on a distinguished road
113 likes received
350 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from ireland. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

My american friend who is here illegally for the last ten years has a public health card and recently had to spend over 2 weeks in hospital. She received great care and I was surprised how modern the facilities were.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 09:29 AM
Pesky Wesky's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Near Madrid. Frequent visitor to Bilbao, love Asturias and Burgos
Posts: 17,899
Rep Power: 61173
Pesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond repute
9040 likes received
8912 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

I have had to make use of a local hospital recently. I say a local hospital because I actually had a choice of 3 for my particular ailment ( nothing dramatic, broken bone in foot) . Treatment received so far I would say very good although the emergency room could have been better. For example I was already having the cast put on before a doctor had explained what I had done... A friend of mine was in hospital ( different one ) recently for 3 weeks was very ill and she is a complicated case. Her treatment was excellent, the team of doctors very much in contact and the room was huge, clean and with sofa bed for a companion
Lynn R, Megsmum and Michael Kelly like this.

__________________
“Nature doesn't need people. People need nature https://www.conservation.org/nature-...Id=mkjwxmcdb0E.”
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 09:34 AM
Pesky Wesky's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Near Madrid. Frequent visitor to Bilbao, love Asturias and Burgos
Posts: 17,899
Rep Power: 61173
Pesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond repute
9040 likes received
8912 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baldilocks View Post
Good luck, Lynn, glad to hear that you are much better.

Yes I'm grateful for the medical services here in Andalucía. Two years ago, I had a pain in my chest that would not go away, I was also short of breath. Local hospital did scans, decided that, to start with, I had pneumonia (brought on, I think, by very heavy pollen) plus there was a suspicious mass in my right lung (Ooops, one thinks, is it Big C ?)

Transferred to the pneumology department in Granada, many tests and scans (it gets quite boring inside those machines.) They started carrying out tests. Trying to get a sample of "the lump" proved unsuccessful, so they decided that they had better see how well I might fare if they had to remove part or all of my right lung (scary ) When they got me to do walking tests, I was all right at a fairly slow to moderate speed but when they wanted me to go a little faster, I got angina. Stop, Stop, Stop. Send me home and bring me in later for another attempt at getting a sample of the lump but, this time, by going in from the outside. In the machine, which runs up, they start looking at what is the current state of the lump, but it has moved and shrunk a bit. Stop again.

They decided that the "lump" was probably a mass from the pneumonia and will probably disperse on its own, in any case trying a biopsy from the outside was now out of the question since it would have collapsed my lung.

Fast forward 9 months to March of last year and I am having breathing difficulties and mild angina. GP decided to send for an ambulance to take me in to the local hospital. I had mild angina for most of the day. At 11.30pm I have the most excruciating pains in my chest and in my upper arms. Fortunately I had the panic button just tucked under my pillow and I hit it. I was immediately given an injection that stopped the pain and got me working a bit more normally and I was transferred (same ambulance and same nurse as before) to the UCI (oothie as they call it!) in Granada. Specialist eventually does a cardiac catheter and decides that since I have already had a bypass and two stents (all of which are now blocked,) nothing can be done so send me home.

My GP, by sending me into hospital when he did, probably saved my life. I now have a treadmill to enable me to exercise in all weathers, even in the heat (with the A/C on) in an attempt to encourage my body to develop new blood vessels to feed my heart.
Poor Baldi. Glad to hear you are satisfied with the care you are receiving though. Hope you are managing to keep your sunny disposition. Good luck with the recovery.
We seem to be a load of sickies recently...

__________________
“Nature doesn't need people. People need nature https://www.conservation.org/nature-...Id=mkjwxmcdb0E.”

Last edited by Pesky Wesky; 18th June 2018 at 09:36 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 10:43 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Velez-Malaga
Posts: 7,265
Rep Power: 8500
Lynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond repute
8970 likes received
5489 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Another thought just occurred to me - if the new Government really does mean to guarantee healthcare for ALL foreigners resident in Spain, then what need would there be for the Convenio Especial whereby people can pay to access public healthcare?
Megsmum likes this.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 10:48 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 272
Rep Power: 0
Michael Kelly is on a distinguished road
113 likes received
350 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from ireland. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn R View Post
Another thought just occurred to me - if the new Government really does mean to guarantee healthcare for ALL foreigners resident in Spain, then what need would there be for the Convenio Especial whereby people can pay to access public healthcare?
is this Convenio only for EU citizens? I had not heard about it before. In theory, EU citizens who are not working need private healthcare to live in Spain, however now people who do not register as EU citizens and just sign on the local padron will have access to the public healthcare system. Actually, this is already the case in Catalyuna.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 10:54 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Velez-Malaga
Posts: 7,265
Rep Power: 8500
Lynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond repute
8970 likes received
5489 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Kelly View Post
is this Convenio only for EU citizens? I had not heard about it before. In theory, EU citizens who are not working need private healthcare to live in Spain, however now people who do not register as EU citizens and just sign on the local padron will have access to the public healthcare system. Actually, this is already the case in Catalyuna.
No, it's not just for EU citizens - one of our forum members, Elyles, who is a US citizens, has posted that he and his wife access healthcare in Spain via the Convenio Especial. It costs €60 per person month for those aged up to 65 and €157 per month for those aged 65 and over. It does not include the cost of any medications, so involves paying 100% of the cost of those on top of the monthly contributions.

I have read elsewhere that Portugal now allows all residents, regardless of age or employment status, to register for state healthcare, so perhaps the new Spanish Government initiative will be similar to that?

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 10:58 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 272
Rep Power: 0
Michael Kelly is on a distinguished road
113 likes received
350 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from ireland. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn R View Post
No, it's not just for EU citizens - one of our forum members, Elyles, who is a US citizens, has posted that he and his wife access healthcare in Spain via the Convenio Especial. It costs €60 per person month for those aged up to 65 and €157 per month for those aged 65 and over. It does not include the cost of any medications, so involves paying 100% of the cost of those on top of the monthly contributions.

I have read elsewhere that Portugal now allows all residents, regardless of age or employment status, to register for state healthcare, so perhaps the new Spanish Government initiative will be similar to that?
I suspect that this "new initiative" will just apply to people who do not have legal residence papers, legal residents will have to continue to pay. That's how things are in Catalyuna now.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 11:24 AM
Pesky Wesky's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Near Madrid. Frequent visitor to Bilbao, love Asturias and Burgos
Posts: 17,899
Rep Power: 61173
Pesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond repute
9040 likes received
8912 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
QUOTE=Michael Kelly;14534800]I suspect that this "new initiative" will just apply to people who do not have legal residence papers, legal residents will have to continue to pay. That's how things are in Catalyuna now.
It's not a new initiative; it's something that's being reinstated after being taken away by the PP.
I would be cautious about celebration because it's only "in" as long as a government decides that it isn't any more which is what has happened before in the PSOE/ PP squabble and with places like Valencia who at one time won a lot of British immigrants for example by offering free healthcare until that was oveturned.
Lynn R, Megsmum and Michael Kelly like this.

__________________
“Nature doesn't need people. People need nature https://www.conservation.org/nature-...Id=mkjwxmcdb0E.”

Last edited by xabiaxica; 18th June 2018 at 12:36 PM. Reason: fixing quote
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 18th June 2018, 12:34 PM
xabiaxica's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Xàbia/Jávea (so good they named it twice!) since 2003
Posts: 34,993
Rep Power: 121379
xabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond reputexabiaxica has a reputation beyond repute
11044 likes received
4832 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from england. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Kelly View Post
is this Convenio only for EU citizens? I had not heard about it before. In theory, EU citizens who are not working need private healthcare to live in Spain, however now people who do not register as EU citizens and just sign on the local padron will have access to the public healthcare system. Actually, this is already the case in Catalyuna.
It was reinstated in Valencia too a few years ago, but Madrid made the Valencian PSOE stop offering it alsmost as soon as they started.

__________________

Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Tags
free healthcare, sip card free, spain medical

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Expat Forum For People Moving Overseas And Living Abroad forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Location
Where you live
Expat From Country
Please select the country you originate from. This will appear as a flag when you make posts on the site.
Expat To Country
Please select the country you have either moved to or want to relocate to. This will be presented on the site when you make posts.

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Spanish Healthcare vs British Healthcare Kenwhite77 Spain Expat Forum for Expats Living in Spain 26 11th November 2012 07:01 AM
HELP Free healthcare needed soon for pre - retirement brit..... greenandpleasantland France Expat Forum for Expats Living in France 27 27th April 2011 11:52 AM
Free French healthcare with just a UK state pension? georgesmiley France Expat Forum for Expats Living in France 16 4th February 2011 08:03 PM
Why is healthcare not free in Australia? Halo Australia Expat Forum for Expats Living in Australia 10 29th March 2010 07:27 AM
Health care, healthcare and more healthcare Zoom General Expat Discussions 18 12th March 2010 11:48 AM

FORUM PARTNERS

ExpatForum.com is owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc.

Retiring Overseas Guides | Moving Overseas Guides | Cost of Living | Health Care Guides


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.