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Old 16th June 2018, 02:26 PM
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Nothing novel about that idea ... I´ve heard it suggested a thousand times before. I can even recall a British Labour chancellor saying he was going to “tax the rich until the pips squeak.” It somehow never seems to work!

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Yes, that's what I was thinking. How could people registering as foreign residents be required to show that they have adequate healthcare if it is to be available to everyone resident in the country? Although when we arrived in 2006, we had the old residual S1 forms from the UK which gave us entitlement to Spanish public healthcare for two years, but if we'd not had those we wouldn't have been eligible to register for tarjeta sanitarias and would have needed private healthcare because we were neither working nor in receipt of a pension, as indeed we did have to have once our two year S1s had expired. In those days you didn't have to prove you had the health cover to be able to register, but that didn't mean that you could just trot along to the centro de salud and register with a doctor.
We too had the S1 forms, in fact, we were some of the final people to apply, they stopped in March 2014 we received ours in February 2014 it was one of the reasons we brought the move forward, two years free healthcare not to be sniffed at. Although by the time we came healthcare was, indeed, part of residency requirements. I had issues when applying for private healthcare hence I’m autonomo, expensive way of getting healthcare, but as we had already budgeted fairly highly for PH, with working and what was in the budget we can manage, can’t put a price on healthcare.
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We too had the S1 forms, in fact, we were some of the final people to apply, they stopped in March 2014 we received ours in February 2014 it was one of the reasons we brought the move forward, two years free healthcare not to be sniffed at. Although by the time we came healthcare was, indeed, part of residency requirements. I had issues when applying for private healthcare hence I’m autonomo, expensive way of getting healthcare, but as we had already budgeted fairly highly for PH, with working and what was in the budget we can manage, can’t put a price on healthcare.
You certainly can't. I know people who decided to "wing it" after their residual S1s expired, or never registered as residents in the first place and just relied on EHICs, I would have been too worried about what might happen to do that. I just got out of hospital yesterday after heart surgery (including 8 days in intensive care), a few years ago I would never have dreamed I might need that.
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La Sanidad gratuita a extranjeros le costará a España 1.100 millones al año - elEconomista.es
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You certainly can't. I know people who decided to "wing it" after their residual S1s expired, or never registered as residents in the first place and just relied on EHICs, I would have been too worried about what might happen to do that. I just got out of hospital yesterday after heart surgery (including 8 days in intensive care), a few years ago I would never have dreamed I might need that.
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You certainly can't. I know people who decided to "wing it" after their residual S1s expired, or never registered as residents in the first place and just relied on EHICs, I would have been too worried about what might happen to do that. I just got out of hospital yesterday after heart surgery (including 8 days in intensive care), a few years ago I would never have dreamed I might need that.
Wow I remember when you first said that doctors found that you had problems with the heart and that you had had no idea, and now you've had surgery. Hope everything is Ok and that you're well on the way to recovery. Lots of good wishes,
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Thanks very much for the good wishes. I was warned beforehand by the surgeon that I would feel very weak afterwards but it still doesn't really prepare you for the reality, somehow. Still, I am feeling a little bit stronger each day so hopefully going in the right direction. Not helped by the fact that I developed atrial fibrillation after the surgery (very common, apparently) so had to stay in CUI on an external pacemaker for much longer than anticipated, so could not start mobilising as soon as I should have which of course makes it harder when you can eventually start. Being confined to either a bed or an armchair next to the bed for 8 days is no fun at all. Nothing but praise for the doctors, nurses, auxiliary nurses and all the other staff, cleanliness or the facilities. Didn't care for some of the food but I wasn't terribly interested in eating for a lot of the time anyway.

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Wishing you speedy full recovery.

Yep, In the four years we have been here, my husband has required two operations, I too was diagnosed with a minor heart problem, resolved now thankfully but on medication.

I personally think that many people run fast and loose with their health cover, with phrases like, I've never been to the Drs or I'm usually very fit and that old favorite, I'll go back to UK

We were all fit until we weren't head-on car accident, falling over, how the &$#$&* you going to go back to the UK
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Good luck, Lynn, glad to hear that you are much better.

Yes I'm grateful for the medical services here in Andalucía. Two years ago, I had a pain in my chest that would not go away, I was also short of breath. Local hospital did scans, decided that, to start with, I had pneumonia (brought on, I think, by very heavy pollen) plus there was a suspicious mass in my right lung (Ooops, one thinks, is it Big C ?)

Transferred to the pneumology department in Granada, many tests and scans (it gets quite boring inside those machines.) They started carrying out tests. Trying to get a sample of "the lump" proved unsuccessful, so they decided that they had better see how well I might fare if they had to remove part or all of my right lung (scary ) When they got me to do walking tests, I was all right at a fairly slow to moderate speed but when they wanted me to go a little faster, I got angina. Stop, Stop, Stop. Send me home and bring me in later for another attempt at getting a sample of the lump but, this time, by going in from the outside. In the machine, which runs up, they start looking at what is the current state of the lump, but it has moved and shrunk a bit. Stop again.

They decided that the "lump" was probably a mass from the pneumonia and will probably disperse on its own, in any case trying a biopsy from the outside was now out of the question since it would have collapsed my lung.

Fast forward 9 months to March of last year and I am having breathing difficulties and mild angina. GP decided to send for an ambulance to take me in to the local hospital. I had mild angina for most of the day. At 11.30pm I have the most excruciating pains in my chest and in my upper arms. Fortunately I had the panic button just tucked under my pillow and I hit it. I was immediately given an injection that stopped the pain and got me working a bit more normally and I was transferred (same ambulance and same nurse as before) to the UCI (oothie as they call it!) in Granada. Specialist eventually does a cardiac catheter and decides that since I have already had a bypass and two stents (all of which are now blocked,) nothing can be done so send me home.

My GP, by sending me into hospital when he did, probably saved my life. I now have a treadmill to enable me to exercise in all weathers, even in the heat (with the A/C on) in an attempt to encourage my body to develop new blood vessels to feed my heart.

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