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I'm looking ahead and considering different life factors. I am exigente when it comes to air pollution (and water pollution, though I haven't thought about that as much where I've lived). I hate walking near a city bus or a modded American truck and breathing diesel fumes or particulates.

I also don't want to live within smog.

I know Madrid itself has some serious pollution issues, and I think part of why (aside from all the cars) is that it's in a bowl-shaped part of the country and the pollution sort of settles in the bowl.

Does anyone have a sense for how much the pollution drops off outside of the city itself? Ideally, I'd like to live close enough that we can occasionally drive into the city (even if it is an hour in), but live far enough that we wouldn't be breathing city fumes 24/7. The air doesn't have to be perfect, but it should be pretty good.

I'm also concerned about fire smoke from fireplaces, leaf burning, etc. And motorbike fumes out in the country. So I know getting things perfect is unlikely; I'm just trying to optimize the equation if I can.

This is something I will also Google, but I thought some of you may have some insights or pointers to sources I can look into.


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You could probably find some info here:
http://www.mambiente.munimadrid.es/o...encms/calaire/

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If you head an hour north of Madrid you're in the mountains, or at least the foothills. Yes the air is noticeably cleaner. In fact I think it's clean enough as soon as you're outside the M40 ring road.
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I'm looking ahead and considering different life factors. I am exigente when it comes to air pollution (and water pollution, though I haven't thought about that as much where I've lived). I hate walking near a city bus or a modded American truck and breathing diesel fumes or particulates.

I also don't want to live within smog.

I know Madrid itself has some serious pollution issues, and I think part of why (aside from all the cars) is that it's in a bowl-shaped part of the country and the pollution sort of settles in the bowl.

Does anyone have a sense for how much the pollution drops off outside of the city itself? Ideally, I'd like to live close enough that we can occasionally drive into the city (even if it is an hour in), but live far enough that we wouldn't be breathing city fumes 24/7. The air doesn't have to be perfect, but it should be pretty good.

I'm also concerned about fire smoke from fireplaces, leaf burning, etc. And motorbike fumes out in the country. So I know getting things perfect is unlikely; I'm just trying to optimize the equation if I can.

This is something I will also Google, but I thought some of you may have some insights or pointers to sources I can look into.
Is Madrid in a "bowl"? I think it's well known for being the highest capital in Europe and it sits at the top of a plain. Bilbao is is in a "bowl"... This means that when there is wind the pollution can blow away, and it dos, to the Sierra where I live.
There is a lot less pollution here and I look up and see bright sunny skies, even now in winter, but unfortunately pollution does drift here from Madrid at times.
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Madrid is not really in a bowl as such, but it is lower lying than the mountains which run from the west to north of the city.

Certainly, pollution (serious pollution) collects in the center.

Certain things are being done to combat this (slowly):
The former right wing local government "policy" of illegally relocating the air quality measurement equipment has been stopped. This of course means that the figures have worsened given them now being true readings, but it also provides us with the correct starting point for necessary measures to improve.
Diesel, and other high pollution vehicles are slowly being restricted to entering the city. This will help a bit IMO.

However, some things are not being done:
Spain has not ratified the obligatory EU regulation on central heating systems which obliges individual property owners to have a metering system for their own consumption and payment. This was supposed to have been adopted by all EU states by Jan 2017. Many suspect that this would reduce central heating fuel consumption (many are oil fired) by around 50%, but it is not in the interests of the powerful oil companies sadly.
There is also still little regulation on industrial outputs.

So, although the "consumer" is being targeted, the main responsible entities are being left alone, so don't expect a significant improvement any time soon.

So, whereas living outside the center is going to provide you with cleaner air, the important issue is to avoid industrial areas or areas with fully centralized heating systems in the buildings, fired with oil (basically 1960s - 1980s apartment blocks).
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You could probably find some info here:
http://www.mambiente.munimadrid.es/o...encms/calaire/
Wow, I feel like a dunce. I just rented an apartment in the center of Madrid and didn’t even think about this issue. Well, if and when I do buy a place I will definitely refer to this site. By then my Spanish, and maybe my math skills, will be improved.

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