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zx10r-Al 8th April 2013 09:06 PM

Habitation licence for a finca in Aragon
 
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Hi

What are the requirements for getting a habitation licence for a restored masia in Aragon? For example, does it need mains water? Does it have to be a certain size? I assume like in the UK, it needs a useable kitchen and bathroom, but is there anything else we need to know about?

We're finding that getting the advice of people who have recently done things in Spain that we want to do is far more reliable than finding information via Google which is many years old.

Many thanks,

Al

snikpoh 9th April 2013 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zx10r-Al (Post 1121408)
Hi

What are the requirements for getting a habitation licence for a restored masia in Aragon? For example, does it need mains water? Does it have to be a certain size? I assume like in the UK, it needs a useable kitchen and bathroom, but is there anything else we need to know about?

We're finding that getting the advice of people who have recently done things in Spain that we want to do is far more reliable than finding information via Google which is many years old.

Many thanks,

Al


For the level of work that you are contemplating, you will need an Architect. In Spain, Architects are also Project Managers - this is reflected in their pricing structure. They will then be able to tell you exactly what you can and can't do in your area to make the property habitable.

There are, like in UK, so many building regulations ranging from size of windows, height of ceilings, construction methods to bidets in bathrooms etc. that you really have to employ a professional to help you through it.

mimi855559 9th April 2013 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JJBarrett (Post 1117926)
Hi Maria

Talking about your deers and boars - do you know anything about whether you can hunt in the region?

I'm not a gung ho cowboy, just a practitioner of the Ray Mears approach ie. Sustainably foraging from what nature can provide, responsibly.

Hi, yes hunting is permitted at weekends and bank holidays. We see the hunters frequently, only wild boar though. Permits are needed and they are only locals, all the men and boys are out there with shotguns.

M

tonyinspain 9th April 2013 07:42 AM

If your wanting to buy on the land ill give you three bits of advice
1 make sure it says habitation on the escritura (deeds) before you buy
2 has it got water or electric (very expensive to connect and a necessity here
3 is it legal al permissions are in force to live there etc etc
Don't believe what the estate agents say they want to sell it
Don't use their builders or solicitors get your own
And if anythings not feeling right leave it alone
Its very difficult to get habitation certificates here and without these your build is illegal and you will not get the resale value for it
Hope this helps

zx10r-Al 9th April 2013 09:50 AM

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This is where it gets frustrating. We could be wasting our time and money looking at property which won't ever meet the regulations, for example due to ceiling height, but without knowing, we have to keep paying the architect to come out and inspect property after property until there is one he says can be made into a home.

zx10r-Al 9th April 2013 09:55 AM

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Thanks for your reply. Some of the properties we're looking at are currently being lived in, but that doesn't mean they have a habitation licence.

zx10r-Al 9th April 2013 10:02 AM

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Would it be a good idea to view the properties with a local builder? I'm wondering whether it would be cheaper to get a builder to inspect the property first, and if he says it can be made habitable and will be granted a habitation licence, then approach the architect?

tonyinspain 9th April 2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by zx10r-Al (Post 1122163)
Thanks for your reply. Some of the properties we're looking at are currently being lived in, but that doesn't mean they have a habitation licence.

Exactly unless its go permissions its illegal
A lot of builds especially almacens were illegal dont touch them with a barge pole they are not worth the price of the land they are built on
Check and check again before buying
Good luck tony

snikpoh 9th April 2013 10:08 AM

Personally, I would only ever buy a property with a certificate.

It's far too 'hit-and-miss' if you don't have one already.

In my experience, people will tell you what you want to hear with NO guarantee!


I did place a copy of the building regs for the Valencia region on here somewhere - I'll try and find them and post the link. Whilst you are not in this area, they may serve as a starting point.

However, even if you meet all the regulations, there is no guarantee that you will be able to get the necessary licences or final certificate.

tonyinspain 9th April 2013 10:09 AM

Ho one other thing black money
1 its illegal
2 when you come to sell your prop say is €50000
But half in black € 25000 inflation etc etc you bay tax when you sell it on the amount its worth minus only €25000 not the €50000 you initally paid for it very costly to you if you cant find a buyer to carry on the black money


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