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vhh123 27th October 2013 10:45 PM

Hi
we've also just bought a piece of land in the Maella district and are beginning to go through options of restoring/building etc. Any advice/tips would be gratefully received! Thanks

vhh123 28th October 2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by roble (Post 2190025)
Best thing fire away with your questions and ill see what i can answer

Thanks that's very kind of you! You may regret it.
Have you had any dealings with the town hall about building permission? We are not sure whether we need an architects project or not. We will have to replace the roof, put in windows and add a concrete floor which we understand are structural jobs and therefore need architects plans; however the builder has quoted for the whole lot and is suggesting he can get the permission to build from the council himself.
Any advice?

welldoneson 28th October 2013 07:51 PM

Hi vhh,
We are a year or so along this process. We got a full project and our builder has done a great job on our building, reroofing and putting in windows. He prices by the job and was significantly better value than another builder recommended to us who priced for the whole thing. I can send you his contact details if you pm me. Have a look back over this thread as there has been a lot of discussion about this topic already. Also links to other threads that will be relevant to you. Good luck!

vhh123 28th October 2013 07:56 PM

Thanks, that's helpful and encouraging to hear. I can't PM yet as I'm new to the site but as soon as I can I'll send you a message to get your builder's details. Thanks again

vhh123 28th October 2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by welldoneson (Post 1223950)
Looks good...I am planning to use a lpg tankless water heater. I have found some on ebay that will run from a gravity feed low pressure hose pipe. My plan is to put a 1000litre water cube on the hill behind my building and have an underground water tank buried infront of the house with drainpipes directing rain water into it. Then a solar pump to pump water up to the cube which will gravity feed the watet heater and toilet.

Hi we're making our plans for off grid living near Maella - just wondered what the pros and cons are of the lpg water heater versus solar? vhh

welldoneson 28th October 2013 09:37 PM

We plan to use the lpg tabkless heater as it runs off low pressure and will provide hot water in winter when there can be snow in the region. (Providing we can stop the water supply from freezing). As we are only using our place as a holiday home the cost of lpg will be relatively small for us. If we were living there all year round I would definitely have solar set up for most of the year and either a tankless heater or a wood stove with a back boiler for hot water for winter use. The set up cost of a basic solar water heating system is very low and there are little or no ongoing costs.

vhh123 29th October 2013 10:11 AM

Thanks, that's very helpful - there's lots to think about when you've never done anything like this before!

welldoneson 29th October 2013 10:23 AM

Yeah I know what you mean.. it is worth it though and there seems to be a growing number of expats buying land in the area. Our place is just about habitable now and next year we plan to put in the bathroom and stay out on the land. Up til now we have camped at Caspe when we have been out to Spain. Where abouts is your land?

vhh123 29th October 2013 01:23 PM

We're in a small valley off the main Matarrana river valley between Mazaleon and Maella. If you know that area, it's about 1km from the Val Comuna reservoir. We have a VW camper so hope to be able to camp on the land when we do short visits until we get things sorted. Can I ask what you are doing about a toilet? We're looking at dry ones, which seem to be the easiest solution given the general lack of water and so we can avoid having a septic tank!

welldoneson 29th October 2013 01:54 PM

We plan to put in a septic tank which was part of our planning application but I did consider a composting toilet. There are a number of companies making them or you could make your own for very little cost. You may find this link helpful

http://www.weblife.org/humanure/

In the end we decided that we would have a flushing loo as we will not live there and it will not require a lot of water for a two week stay. The plan is to collect rainwater in a large underground tank fed by the guttering from the roof. If we were living out there this would not be practical as it would use too much water.


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