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My partner and I have lived in Spain for a few years now. We have worked in hospitality for many years around the world as a chef and front of house manager.
We have now decided we would like to start something of our own in a spanish city (Alicante or Valencia) and are currently doing comprehensive research on the subject.

We have of course got lots of questions and would really appreciate any advice, answers or suggestions. Perhaps it's important to say that initially we aim to rent a premises.

Firstly:
- we would ideally start a bar/cafe/taberna rather than a restaurant. Due to the type of food and drink we wish to serve we hope this is possible. We are aware of the different licenses required for various types of premises and activity. If anyone can however clarify these different licenses and how they are regulated/obtained that would be great.

Secondly:
- we are very keen on the idea of living on the premises but in a separate area of course. For example, a townhouse with the bottom floor as the bar/cafe, upstairs or downstairs kitchen (only as commercial as is necessary for the license) and upstairs floor/s for living space.
Any advice as to whether this is possible would also be excellent.

Lastly:
- we are unsure of the details regarding registering a business or company.
I am keen to be self-employed so that I can continue with other activities alongside this business such as massage and teaching English. We therefore aren't sure what the limits or possibilities are of being - both or individually freelance, jointly owned, limited company etc.

If anyone can recommend other sources of information such as websites, articles etc we would be eternally grateful


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My partner and I have lived in Spain for a few years now. We have worked in hospitality for many years around the world as a chef and front of house manager.
We have now decided we would like to start something of our own in a spanish city (Alicante or Valencia) and are currently doing comprehensive research on the subject.

We have of course got lots of questions and would really appreciate any advice, answers or suggestions. Perhaps it's important to say that initially we aim to rent a premises.

Firstly:
- we would ideally start a bar/cafe/taberna rather than a restaurant. Due to the type of food and drink we wish to serve we hope this is possible. We are aware of the different licenses required for various types of premises and activity. If anyone can however clarify these different licenses and how they are regulated/obtained that would be great.


Secondly:
- we are very keen on the idea of living on the premises but in a separate area of course. For example, a townhouse with the bottom floor as the bar/cafe, upstairs or downstairs kitchen (only as commercial as is necessary for the license) and upstairs floor/s for living space.
Any advice as to whether this is possible would also be excellent.

Lastly:
- we are unsure of the details regarding registering a business or company.
I am keen to be self-employed so that I can continue with other activities alongside this business such as massage and teaching English. We therefore aren't sure what the limits or possibilities are of being - both or individually freelance, jointly owned, limited company etc.

If anyone can recommend other sources of information such as websites, articles etc we would be eternally grateful
I am sure you can find a lot of bars and restaurants to rent...and this mean bad news, I don't know in the Valčncia or Alacant area but bad times are coming in Spain,take care.
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I would recommend to consider registering as self-employed - autonomo as you can still own a bar and employ people. All my friends (locals and expats) who own bars are registered as self-employed. Registration as self employed is free and there are special support points where you can do it in one go. I took me 10 min to register for 0 cost. The onlly fixed cost as self-employed is the social security payment (and if itīs the first time you register, it will be 50 Eur for the first 6 months, then 130Eur for other 6, then 180 for 6 months, and you will end up paying 250 Eur a month - regardless of your income). As autonomo, itīs easier to keep the books (you even can do it yourself!). To register a company is much more money and paperwork, and from my point of view - not necessary in your situation.
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I live in Valencia city. I have had first rate help with 'papeles' from a gestoria who speaks workable English, if you need it and whose mother is a full-blown lawyer, if you need that level of help.

The lawyer speaks good English, I'm told by the English couple who recommended this mother and daughter team to me, having had all their legals with property purchase, vehicle reg and other 'papeles' sorted very satisfactorily by them.

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I would recommend to consider registering as self-employed - autonomo as you can still own a bar and employ people. All my friends (locals and expats) who own bars are registered as self-employed. Registration as self employed is free and there are special support points where you can do it in one go. I took me 10 min to register for 0 cost. The onlly fixed cost as self-employed is the social security payment (and if itīs the first time you register, it will be 50 Eur for the first 6 months, then 130Eur for other 6, then 180 for 6 months, and you will end up paying 250 Eur a month - regardless of your income). As autonomo, itīs easier to keep the books (you even can do it yourself!). To register a company is much more money and paperwork, and from my point of view - not necessary in your situation.
I totally agree. Our business is also registered as Autonoma. We are now paying 120Euro per month for the Social Security. Getting a GESTOR gives you more time to focus on your business. But if you are okay on filing/submitting all your expenses, tax reports, etc every quarter by yourself, then you dont need a Gestor. Before we are paying 72 per month for the gestor. Then we found a much cheaper gestor near our place for just 35 eur monthly. If you need some help, please send me a private message.

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I totally agree. Our business is also registered as Autonoma. We are now paying 120Euro per month for the Social Security. Getting a GESTOR gives you more time to focus on your business. But if you are okay on filing/submitting all your expenses, tax reports, etc every quarter by yourself, then you dont need a Gestor. Before we are paying 72 per month for the gestor. Then we found a much cheaper gestor near our place for just 35 eur monthly. If you need some help, please send me a private message.

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Or better yet, ask here & we can all benefit from the information

I use a gestor too. I could do all my own tax returns & so on, but tbh the gestor costs me less per month than I earn in an hour, so it's worth every cent to me, to have one less thing to do
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