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Mac62 7th October 2019 07:41 PM

Rental apt monthly expenses.
 
Hello folks,

Just a simple request, does anyone know what the typical expenses that are the responsibilities for a tenant of a rental apt in Portugal? Here in the U.S. water and rubbish/trash are not the usually the responsibility of the tenant, though I imagine it is factored into the rent. Is Portugal different?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Zola 8th October 2019 09:48 AM

1. GAS
I am billed by the city I live in for gas (not all rentals have gas connections, but the newer and more expensive ones do.) (One person who doesn't cook much with a gas stove and for hot water too = 8 euros)
Gas heating is in expensive housing, so I don't know the price. If you rent/buy a place that's insulated, heating is cheaper. In the winter, I use gas canisters since electric heaters are expensive, and so is electricity.

2. WATER
Yes, you are billed by the city. (Less than 10 euros per month for one person) To disconnect the water for my flat in Cascais, I was charged 50 Euros! No wonder the bills always arrived with someone else's name on them.

3. ELECTRICITY
Do not use EDP. Look up reviews for it and there are many customer complaints. I recently changed to Iberdola. (EDP was 60 euros a month in Cascais, but I don't know what it is now. I turn off all my extension cords at night and during the day. Check carefully to see how many electric sockets are in each room. Too often there's only one per room.)

My dryer broke so I stopped using it. I hear dryers consume LOTS of electricity. Don't dry flannel bed sheets - I think that's what clogged my dryer.

SUMMARY
I don't know about other bills. You have to read your rental contract. If I wanted a parking space, that would have been an extra 50 Euros per month in Almada.

You can automatically pay such bills by completing forms with the provider for your bank.

In general, the tenant is responsible for fixing any problem in the flat, including plumbing. I installed an overhead light/fan. I will not take it with me, and it 'belongs' to the flat.

Most everything is cheaper in Portugal, however, not everything is available. When leaving the USA, you leave behind lots of convenience. And no, there are no Walmarts in Portugal.

Mac62 8th October 2019 04:01 PM

Zola, thank you for a wonderfully detailed reply! I really appreciate it.

Strontium 8th October 2019 07:59 PM

The contract yo sign will clarify the services you pay for and the services your landlord/landlady/goatenter pays for, if not then why would you sign it unless you are stupid? I;m sure this will be the normal procedure in the civilised world including Mongolia and Botswana but probably not in the us of a ?

Mac62 8th October 2019 08:59 PM

Thank you for the reply Strontium.

Mac62 10th October 2019 02:41 PM

The contract yo sign will clarify the services you pay for and the services your landlord/landlady/goatenter pays for, if not then why would you sign it unless you are stupid? I;m sure this will be the normal procedure in the civilised world including Mongolia and Botswana but probably not in the us of a ?

Strontium, my original post question was a general question from someone who does not reside in Portugal, and was asking in a respectful manner what one could expect to pay as a renter, and I appreciated Zola's detailed non judgemental reply.

Yours on the other hand is condescending, rude and pointedly uncivilised. Which I've noticed seems to be your forte.

Therefore, I respectfully ask that you do not reply to my posts, and I will offer the same in return.

If not I will ask the administrators if I can block you from my postings.

dancebert 12th October 2019 09:59 AM

I know what I pay (power, water, gas), but don't know what's typical. As for trash, my town has free city bins (both above and below ground) all over the parts of town I've walked through. They're emptied daily.

Mac62 12th October 2019 01:21 PM

Thank you Dancebert for the information.

Naaling 12th October 2019 01:43 PM

We have been renting an apartment in Setubal for nearly 4 years. We pay for electricity, gas, water and internet, all of which are in our name. Any other charges, whatever they are, are paid by the owner. I believe this situation is fairly typical.

Mac62 12th October 2019 01:48 PM

Thanks Naaling, can I ask what your averages are a month for water, gas and electric are, I know you may have more than one person, but I'm just looking for ball park figures? Cheers.


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