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Did you move to the Castelo Branco region?


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Old 28th July 2018, 01:17 PM
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Hi,

We are at the start of our Portugal property journey. Research Stage! We have a clear vision of what we are looking for and the properties around Castelo Branco seem to fit the bill the most ( ruralness, land, renovations we can afford to do!).

I have searched this forum for a couple of things and found some useful but very old threads from people who have bought/were in the process of buying property and had similar plans to ours. To avoid reinventing the wheel I was hoping to contact them directly to find out how things went and if I could ask for some recommendations. However I can't PM anyone until i have posted a few times :-)

Is there anyone that has bought a property with land around the Castelo Branco/Penamacor/Fundao region? Or/And completed a renovation in this area? Have you set up any holiday lets ? ( we are thinking of eventually having a couple of yurts or similar - depends on what we buy, and would want it to be all legit.)
( We have a reccy booked as only been to other areas of Portugal before) but would like to hear other peoples experiences if anyone is willing to share? Any advice or recommendations on the practical matters ( estate agents/lawyers/builders/tourist licences/internet connection etc) would be gratefully recieved!

Trying to find a reliable source for weather/climate in the region. Can anyone tell me a good website that accurately reflects the climate in these areas? How do you find the weather in the winter in these areas?


Thank you in anticipation.

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Hi,

Portugal is wonderful place and i really like it but a touch of reality........

There is no substitute to spending time here, making contacts and seeing things yourself, not just at one time of year. As much time as possible in several different places and different time of year in order to make the comparisons yourself. Looking at houses in the Autumn will not show you how in unmodified traditional old stone house black mould takes over the walls, soft furnishings, clothes in the 3 months of cold rain of the "wet season", nor the scorching heat and lack of water of the "dry season". Better to go physically to local estate agencies yourself and talk to them yourself, most deal with local property and do not always respond to email or phone enquiries (from their point of view it costs them and they get no sale just people wanting free information)
A lot of local agents do not list ALL their properties on websites, do not regularly update websites so internet searches give you a distorted view missing many available properties but including properties which are not for sale. Especially for cheaper end of the market the paperwork often is not up to date as it costs to update it and a vendor will not do this unless they think there is a possible sale. Also, due to THE LAW when someone dies the property is equally proportioned amongst their offspring so there may be many joint owners who ALL have to agree on any course of action which will not be listed on interweb searches. This also add vast delays to get any decision and sometimes never getting a decision. Additionally Portugal luxuriates in "variable administration" where asking two people in the same offices the same question often gets two entirely different answers.
Loans can be taken against a property and this goes along the the property to the new owner so a 50k euro house may have a 25K euro loan against it but these loans do not appear on internet search for properties. So internet comparing two 50K euro houses does not show one may cost you 75K euro.

This is not the UK property market.

If you are thinking of going "green" then water is an issue here,

https://www.news24.com/Green/News/sp...ought-20171121



Also here's a quote from this blog about

http://www.emmashouseinportugal.com/advice/

. Be there, in the Country.

I cannot say in retrospect I’d do it differently, because technically I wasn’t permitted to be in Portugal at the time (actually I was not permitted in Germany either, but that is another story). And I can’t say I regret living in Berlin, either, because I learnt Portuguese and did a lot of yoga. But…

A big part of my problems in the buying process stemmed from not being in Portugal. I thought that it didn’t matter whether I was calling from Viana do Castelo or Vladivostock, and that via the internet our geography was virtual. Well, as it turned out, neither the lawyer, the builder, the architect, the owner or the agent were fluent in email. They have the technology, they’re just not sure how to work it.

The thing is, Portugal functions better face-to-face. It is an In-Person kind of place. They don’t even really like the telephone, except if it’s new and takes pictures. So be there. In person. In the country.

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Hi,
Thank you for taking the time to reply..

Portugal is wonderful place and i really like it but a touch of reality........

There is no substitute to spending time here, making contacts and seeing things yourself, not just at one time of year. As much time as possible in several different places and different time of year in order to make the comparisons yourself.

We agree and we have a couple of reccys planned during the winter ( having visited in the spring previously) and am going to explore the areas we are interested in as much as possible. Sadly we are restricted due to work and a/l. We have a recent change in circs which has meant we are able to start to put our long term plan into action sooner then we had thought but we have to work with our current commitments etc.

Looking at houses in the Autumn will not show you how in unmodified traditional old stone house black mould takes over the walls, soft furnishings, clothes in the 3 months of cold rain of the "wet season", nor the scorching heat and lack of water of the "dry season". Better to go physically to local estate agencies yourself and talk to them yourself, most deal with local property and do not always respond to email or phone enquiries (from their point of view it costs them and they get no sale just people wanting free information)

Again, completely agree and this is on top of our list of things to do when we visit.

A lot of local agents do not list ALL their properties on websites, do not regularly update websites so internet searches give you a distorted view missing many available properties but including properties which are not for sale. Especially for cheaper end of the market the paperwork often is not up to date as it costs to update it and a vendor will not do this unless they think there is a possible sale. Also, due to THE LAW when someone dies the property is equally proportioned amongst their offspring so there may be many joint owners who ALL have to agree on any course of action which will not be listed on interweb searches. This also add vast delays to get any decision and sometimes never getting a decision. Additionally Portugal luxuriates in "variable administration" where asking two people in the same offices the same question often gets two entirely different answers.
Loans can be taken against a property and this goes along the the property to the new owner so a 50k euro house may have a 25K euro loan against it but these loans do not appear on internet search for properties. So internet comparing two 50K euro houses does not show one may cost you 75K euro.

[Through the research I have done so far I had discovered this.. I am trying to be as prepared as poss for all the eventualities and make use of my time here in the UK as well as Portugal :-)

This is not the UK property market.

Again, I agree.

If you are thinking of going "green" then water is an issue here,

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Also here's a quote from this blog about

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. Be there, in the Country.

I cannot say in retrospect Iíd do it differently, because technically I wasnít permitted to be in Portugal at the time (actually I was not permitted in Germany either, but that is another story). And I canít say I regret living in Berlin, either, because I learnt Portuguese and did a lot of yoga. ButÖ

A big part of my problems in the buying process stemmed from not being in Portugal. I thought that it didnít matter whether I was calling from Viana do Castelo or Vladivostock, and that via the internet our geography was virtual. Well, as it turned out, neither the lawyer, the builder, the architect, the owner or the agent were fluent in email. They have the technology, theyíre just not sure how to work it.

The thing is, Portugal functions better face-to-face. It is an In-Person kind of place. They donít even really like the telephone, except if itís new and takes pictures. So be there. In person. In the country.
We will be as much as possible.

We are taking everything slowly and I hope someone who has moved into Castelo Branco region will be wiling to share their experience. I am hoping to make contact with people who live in this area ( and others) .

Thank you for the general advice and the links.

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There is also a nice book called the Eucalyptus Dance written about buying a house in Central Portugal and starting a tourist business.
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Hi Gail......not sure if you are still looking for replies, but are currently going through the purchasing process, having had our offer accepted on a property about 15 minutes from Castelo Branco.
We only went there for 3 nights over Xmas and new year to view a bunch of properties, but saw our dream place that ticked all the boxes apart from being within an hour of an airport......a compromise we're delighted with and are hoping to have everything signed this coming week.
You may be a number of steps ahead of us but happy to help in any way if we can. We certainly have an excellent local lawyer who is very affordable especially compared to UK prices if that is of any use?
I always think it's good to know a few expats within the vicinity and I wasn't sure how concentrated it is around the Castelo Branco area. Doesn't seem to be too many compared to other areas, but I'm sure word will soon get out. Such a stunning part of Portugal.

Kind regards

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Hi Iain,just picked up your thread. Did you get your dream home? We're in the process of buying a farm about 20 minutes north of Castelo Branco. Like you, we think it's nice to know of a few expats. Would appreciate your lawyers details if possible & any other advice you can offer... Hope all's off to a great start. Laura

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Hi Laura.....yes we found our dream home in a little village called Barbaido. It's wonderful and the locals are very special. We love it there and have booked flights for every month for the rest of the year so we can titivate as we go before eventually relocating for good in 4 years time.

Best advice I'd give is get a good lawyer that preferably is fluent in English. Even though this isn't a legal requirement, I'm still glad we used one. You can drop her an email at [email protected] and I'm sure she'd be happy to assist.

Good luck with the language too. We've found the local village dialect is quite different from European text book Portuguese. The pronunciation is way different from what we had tried hard to learn so are learning as we go. Very tough language though, or so I am finding.

Good luck with the move. We can't be too far away from each other.

Cheers

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My wife and I + 2 dogs hope to move to Portugal, Castelo Branco district, in the next couple of weeks.
We are coming over land with our caravan which we will live in whilst we look for a new home.
I am hoping for hints, tips, outright advice on Banks, Solicitors, Estate agents, Vets, caravan sites, roads. tolls.
etc. and any thing else pertinent. All have been researched extensively on the Net & Google earth, but nothing compares with experience and first hand knowledge.
Seeking wisdom!!!
Many Thanks

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