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My wife & I love on the Mississippi River in Iowa, USA. We are now here in Coimbra and would like to visit with a realtor (rental, not purchase) to font-size our expectations in this are for a 3-bedroom apartment. Does anyone have a suggestion? We staying in an airbnb downtown.

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Sorry for bad proofing! We "live" in Iowa, and want to "right-size" expectations. Embarrassing way to join the group.
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Sorry for bad proofing! We "live" in Iowa, and want to "right-size" expectations. Embarrassing way to join the group.
Welcome, but Darn It. When I read 'love on the Mississippi river' I started humming Proud Mary - "Rollin', rollin', rollin' on the river..."

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Hello Coimbra Expats,
My wife & I love on the Mississippi River in Iowa, USA. We are now here in Coimbra and would like to visit with a realtor (rental, not purchase) to font-size our expectations in this are for a 3-bedroom apartment. Does anyone have a suggestion? We staying in an airbnb downtown.
Welcome to Coimbra and to the forum.

Sorry but you have caught me on a very bad day as far as this topic is concerned, so please, forgive my little rant.

I do not want to put a downer on your trip but I do hope that your expectations are not too high as your quest will be very frustrating. For the past few weeks I have phoned, emailed, joined web lists and personally visited a number of estate agents in Coimbra and would not recommend any of them. They lack any drive or enthusiasm to actually get off their backsides even to answer a phone, let alone meet and heaven forbid, make a deal.

We are not allowed to mention problem companies by name on here, so let me just say this. Definitely do not use the company that operates out of the first floor of the building opposite the main post office on Avenue Fernão Magalhães and next door to the dentist known as OralMed.

I have been waiting two weeks for a contract for a property on which they insisted on being paid a substantial sum of money in cash. I wonder if Finanças are aware of that! Without the contract, the lad I am trying to help cannot get a NIF and without a NIF he cannot get a bank account, gas, water or electricity. But hey! It only gets down to 4 degrees at night when I'm sure the agent is tucked up snug and warm in his bed. We are now on our third promise of a contract to sign this afternoon but I am more likely to win the lottery this week.

To sum up, there are plenty of agents around town but all are as bad as one another. There are two websites that you might like to keep an eye on:

www.imovirtual.pt and www.casasapot.pt

They carry adverts for properties placed both by agents and owners. If you are searching for a property in the city of Coimbra as opposed to the region, you will need to act quickly as 3 beds do not hang around for long.

Good luck!

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Sounds dreadful. I'd hate to be going through that.

For the past few weeks I have phoned, emailed, joined web lists and personally visited a number of estate agents in Coimbra and would not recommend any of them. They lack any drive or enthusiasm to actually get off their backsides even to answer a phone, let alone meet and heaven forbid, make a deal.
I'm curious if their disinterest could be, in part, from you being a representative, not the person who will be leasing. Or if your ability with Portuguese and/or their abilities in English was a factor.

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Without the contract, the lad I am trying to help cannot get a NIF and without a NIF he cannot get a bank account, gas, water or electricity. But hey!
I don't know about the difference between what the law says and how it's implemented. That said, a Portuguese firm specializing in tax and business advice says non-EU residents who are not Portuguese residents can get a NIF. On a tourist visa. BTW, Article 10 of Finance Ministry Decree-Law No. 14/2013 of January 28 says the same thing. All you need is Passport, proof of home address, and a Tax Representative. First 2 are easy.

INTAX: Tax Id Number in Portugal or NIF for foreign citizens

One detailed description of the steps to a residence visa (on a competing site so I won't link). The author contradicts herself about how to get a Tax Representative, saying both it's difficult and easy.

A financial guarantor can be your lawyer, a person with power of attorney, landlord, Dean of Admissions etc. who is a national of the European Union or holds permanent residence in Portugal. This person needs to provide a letter or email stating that he/she will guarantee your accommodations and financial support for a year as well as your return transit to the US. The guarantor's name, financial number and address are required on the letter or email. This imposes a legal risk on the guarantor so it can be difficult to obtain.
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Many of us who've preceded you to Portugal can recommend attorneys who would charge $40 per guarantor letter or you can ask your initial landlord or realtor, who often is willing to help.

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I'm curious if their disinterest could be, in part, from you being a representative, not the person who will be leasing. Or if your ability with Portuguese and/or their abilities in English was a factor.

The current agent was quite happy for me to act as representative and even sign the reservation of the apartment. Once he had the rental deposit he lost interest. At all times I was accompanied by a Portuguese friend so there were no language issues.

Regarding your second post and the topic of visas, this does not apply in this case as the renter is a UK citizen.

Yesterday the agent was told that he had until close of play today to come up with a contract or we would be asking for the Complaints Book. That worked, but the contract will not be available until 5pm so too late to visit Finanças. It's a start.

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Fingers crossed, JB....it must be so incredibly frustrating and infuriating.
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Fingers crossed, JB....it must be so incredibly frustrating and infuriating.
Thanks Smudges. There are times when I wonder how some of these people make a living. I hope Dubuqueguy has better luck than I have.

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It does seem rather odd that they seem to actively not want to do business. Then this insistence on cash sounds rather suspicious....mind you, when I was in Spain I always paid rent in cash. It was just easier. Do let us know how you get on.

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