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Most don't ask or are concerned with the following question as well, someone please give us your actual life experiences on the below between OZs and Kanucks.

Q. Where does it feel like it is a police state? (meaning too many rules and regulations in everyday life e.g. speed and red light cameras, how strict are the cops with speed limits, security guards everywhere including grocery stores, etc.)
People seem to feel safer in Canada - at least in terms of walking alone at night - 82% of Canadians polled said they feel safe compared to 63% of Australians.

But perception can be quite different from reality - current OECD data has Australia with 0.8 murders per 100,000 people and dropping, and Canada is 1.5 and increasing.

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If you want a wider view, at least of OECD countries, look here: OECD Better Life Index (Go to the bottom right and select "Display by rank".

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People seem to feel safer in Canada - at least in terms of walking alone at night - 82% of Canadians polled said they feel safe compared to 63% of Australians.

But perception can be quite different from reality - current OECD data has Australia with 0.8 murders per 100,000 people and dropping, and Canada is 1.5 and increasing.

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If you want a wider view, at least of OECD countries, look here: OECD Better Life Index (Go to the bottom right and select "Display by rank".

Good to know but I meant more like where does it feel like you have to watch out for too many laws and breaking them means some kind of consequence. Actually this is one of the reasons why i don't prefer OECD countries lifestyle as one does not feel free in some ways e.g. speeding on highways and other roads and jay-walking, can be done on whatever speed one wants and no cop will ever bother them in our part of the world, etc, like someone mentioned in Ontario, Canada the traffic cops wont stop you if you are 10-20kph over the speed limit - how is it in Australia, are they very strict and rigid with things like that among others?

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Good to know but I meant more like where does it feel like you have to watch out for too many laws and breaking them means some kind of consequence. Actually this is one of the reasons why i don't prefer OECD countries lifestyle as one does not feel free in some ways e.g. speeding on highways and other roads and jay-walking, can be done on whatever speed one wants and no cop will ever bother them in our part of the world, etc, like someone mentioned in Ontario, Canada the traffic cops wont stop you if you are 10-20kph over the speed limit - how is it in Australia, are they very strict and rigid with things like that among others?
I'm in Perth, and Western Australia is often called the Nanny State by those that live here.

There's not a hugely noticeable Police presence - you might see a Police Car every now and then. People don't speed too much (there are some of course) but there are too many cameras - 5 to 10k over the speed limit is about it generally. Some areas are better or worse. Jaywalking isn't an issue, although most people cross at crossings/intersections if they are nearby simply as it's a bit safer.

For me, I don't think too much (at all) about breaking any laws, and I doubt whether most people do either. But I won't speed much, you're simply asking for fines and points on your license. There are a good number of speed cameras, new point to point cameras for long distances being introduced, multi-lane Poliscan Vitronic, raised cameras to detect mobile phone usage as well as probably more than 150 red light cameras in Perth alone. Sometimes plainclothes police on motorcycles to bust mobile phone users too.

But there is certainly no oppressive feeling at all.

You can use rader detectors here in WA, but not in any other State, but most won't pick up the Poliscans anyway.

You may be feel more "free" in non-OECD countries (I don't), but you're also at much higher risk of dying or being injured on the roads in those countries.
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I'm in Perth, and Western Australia is often called the Nanny State by those that live here.

You may be feel more "free" in non-OECD countries (I don't), but you're also at much higher risk of dying or being injured on the roads in those countries.
Since yesterday, I have been asking myself whether I am the only one who thinks this question is weird.

If I feel uncomfortable with too many restrictions and checks on over-speeding, drunk-driving, jay-walking, etc; why would I want to move to Australia or Canada or US or NZ?

India is one of the free-est countries in the world where you can do anything with little fear of getting severely punished (that is if you are caught doing it).

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Since yesterday, I have been asking myself whether I am the only one who thinks this question is weird.

If I feel uncomfortable with too many restrictions and checks on over-speeding, drunk-driving, jay-walking, etc; why would I want to move to Australia or Canada or US or NZ?

India is one of the free-est countries in the world where you can do anything with little fear of getting severely punished (that is if you are caught doing it).

Duh!

yea you cant drive like in India here. and some people cant easily get rid off their bad driving habits (from India) after they move to a Western country. But that is only a minority.

If India had implemented stricter traffic fines and no bribes to police for traffic stops, Government would have made a lot more money from that front which they can use for better infrastructure. But practically this is not going to happen in India any time soon

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You may be feel more "free" in non-OECD countries (I don't), but you're also at much higher risk of dying or being injured on the roads in those countries.
But its not only the speeding and stuff (try to extrapolate), in general, life in developing countries including work and all is "easy going" - yes it also means lower living standard in general (depends on your education level tho) but I think one may be happier in life due to less stress and laid back attitude of the populace. My friend went to Canada and during one of his job in his cubicle there was a bug so he sprayed the bug spray and little did he foresee the consequence of that - his cubicle neighbors left immediately and got a warning letter from his senior supervisor - and both him and me were stunned, just for a bug ... if it was here in our country simply nobody would have paid any attention as its trivial matter ... this is what I was referring to about too many written and unwritten rules and regulations (try to extrapolate).


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Since yesterday, I have been asking myself whether I am the only one who thinks this question is weird.

India is one of the free-est countries in the world where you can do anything with little fear of getting severely punished (that is if you are caught doing it).

No you are not the only one who thinks like that. India may be free (tho I haven't had a chance to visit) but so is our country and that is freedom that is difficult to give up just for a "developed" country life.

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yea you cant drive like in India here. and some people cant easily get rid off their bad driving habits (from India) after they move to a Western country. But that is only a minority.

If India had implemented stricter traffic fines and no bribes to police for traffic stops, Government would have made a lot more money from that front which they can use for better infrastructure. But practically this is not going to happen in India any time soon
Has Indian government sanctioned bribes to police now?

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and based on my experience, Car insurance , mobile connection etc is cheaper in Oz when compared to Canada
Are there any charges for vehicle registration in either of these countries? Like in our part of the world there is only a one time fee (very tiny amount) for registration and then you don't pay anything ever to the gov.


How many black folks do you see on street and in everyday life in either of these countries? And how bad is the discrimination towards blacks? (I am asking coz I am black African/Kenyan and I read lot of disappointing news particularly in US and with that #blacklivesmatter thing, though these two countries are not US but their heritage is part of western nations, therefore would be good to know about your experiences within either of these countries to be mentally prepared).


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Are there any charges for vehicle registration in either of these countries? Like in our part of the world there is only a one time fee (very tiny amount) for registration and then you don't pay anything ever to the gov.


How many black folks do you see on street and in everyday life in either of these countries? And how bad is the discrimination towards blacks? (I am asking coz I am black African/Kenyan and I read lot of disappointing news particularly in US and with that #blacklivesmatter thing, though these two countries are not US but their heritage is part of western nations, therefore would be good to know about your experiences within either of these countries to be mentally prepared).
Car registrations here is 787 AUD per year in Melbourne.

Many blacks here are working in many areas. In fact a black plumber came in my home 10 mins ago. And there are black gangs so naturally you will expect some discrimination.

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Are there any charges for vehicle registration in either of these countries? Like in our part of the world there is only a one time fee (very tiny amount) for registration and then you don't pay anything ever to the gov.


How many black folks do you see on street and in everyday life in either of these countries? And how bad is the discrimination towards blacks? (I am asking coz I am black African/Kenyan and I read lot of disappointing news particularly in US and with that #blacklivesmatter thing, though these two countries are not US but their heritage is part of western nations, therefore would be good to know about your experiences within either of these countries to be mentally prepared).

yes both are having yearly registration fees.

and i am not seeing many African origin folks here in Aus. may be because of the area i live in. Canada has more definitely (Toronto area). In fact Toronto is the most diverse city on the planet.

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