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Old 19th June 2018, 12:34 PM
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Its still better because in Bangalore, India my husband leaves home at 7.30am it takes 2hrs to travel 20km distance in the morning and same 20km takes 2.30hrs travel in evening if started at 6.30pm. So he leaves office by 9pm just to avoid traffic and reduce 1hr of travel in traffic come home by 10.30pm if traffic conditions r good. God forbid if it rained that day r some accident happened or some other reason traffic pileup and he come home by 11pm. Dinner by 11.30 and sleep by 12.30pm. This is not joke its serious problem both on health and relationship and we r living this life for past several years.

We both will be waiting for weekend to come not to enjoy just catchup on sleep. So weekend is not shopping day but a sleeping day. We don't dare to go out of house on weekends as that day traffic is more horrible than the weekdays.

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Hmmm.. I too live in bangalore temporarily though. On an average, it takes me 2 hours, 20/30 min, as an average from electronic city to airport, that is when I start at 6pm or so..airport should be triple the distance...Nice road takes 1.5 hours.
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Its still better because in Bangalore, India my husband leaves home at 7.30am it takes 2hrs to travel 20km distance in the morning and same 20km takes 2.30hrs travel in evening if started at 6.30pm. So he leaves office by 9pm just to avoid traffic and reduce 1hr of travel in traffic come home by 10.30pm if traffic conditions r good. God forbid if it rained that day r some accident happened or some other reason traffic pileup and he come home by 11pm. Dinner by 11.30 and sleep by 12.30pm. This is not joke its serious problem both on health and relationship and we r living this life for past several years.

We both will be waiting for weekend to come not to enjoy just catchup on sleep. So weekend is not shopping day but a sleeping day. We don't dare to go out of house on weekends as that day traffic is more horrible than the weekdays.

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In Malaysia it takes a similar time. Too many people living in the capital and nearby suburbs.

It takes me 40 mins in the morning to take the train to work (including driving to the station, walking 1.5km) and 1h to go home when my home is just 3km away from my office. If I drive to work it would take me 2h sometimes to reach home. So train for me is a good and cheap way to get to work unless it rains but I am lucky to live near a station.

I lived in Australia for a few months during university. So why I want to move:

Fresh air - Malaysia isn't as polluted as some countries but the sky can be smoggy sometimes and the haze every year! But no haze in 2017 which was a surprise. Sky in Aussie is always bright and air is lovely. Malaysia has no regulation on carbon emissions of vehicles so we have higher risk of respiratory illnesses. Lots of vehicles spewing white and black smoke everywhere.

4 seasons - This is a personal preference. Some people like the constant weather in tropical countries. I enjoy colder weather and the changing seasons. Watching the tree leaves become green then orange then fall off. Melbourne has a pretty mild winter. I just don't enjoy how fast the weather changes. It can hail and be sunny in the same hour.

Good food - I enjoy cooking more Western dishes and the groceries in Aussie are more affordable. Beef in Malaysia is imported from Aussie and super expensive (60 MYR/kg). Milk in Malaysia is getting really expensive despite being produced locally. It was cheap to eat healthy in Aussie in uni as long as I cooked. Going out is expensive, but it is also expensive in Malaysia. Cheap food is easier to find in Malaysia but it is often dirty, oily and low quality. Food hygiene isn't very good here. The local food is also very high in calories but I will admit much tastier than Australian local food. I managed to find very very good Asian food in Melbourne so I am not concerned about missing home.

Education - For future kids - good education in public schools. I have young cousins and the difference between their public schools and Malaysian ones is staggering. They are more mature and open minded at a young age. Also tertiary education is cheaper in Australia as a domestic student. In Malaysia we send our kids to Australia anyway to study which costs a lot. Up to millions.

Cars - Me and SO like cars but Malaysia has the 2nd most expensive car prices in the world so we cannot afford them. Also everyone has to drive the few same overpriced terrible cars here. Cannot wait to buy a good one in Australia.

Culture - Malaysian culture is very self centered and rude and racist. I prefer the culture in Australia. Always a good show or event to be had around the city as well.

That is all I can think of at the moment (at work)

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Very nice read. Thanks Kerberos for sharing your view.

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Very nice read. Thanks Kerberos for sharing your view.
Wow someone enjoyed it! You're very welcome I will try to add if I can. Stealth typing a forum post while at work.

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In Malaysia it takes a similar time. Too many people living in the capital and nearby suburbs.

It takes me 40 mins in the morning to take the train to work (including driving to the station, walking 1.5km) and 1h to go home when my home is just 3km away from my office. If I drive to work it would take me 2h sometimes to reach home. So train for me is a good and cheap way to get to work unless it rains but I am lucky to live near a station.

I lived in Australia for a few months during university. So why I want to move:

Fresh air - Malaysia isn't as polluted as some countries but the sky can be smoggy sometimes and the haze every year! But no haze in 2017 which was a surprise. Sky in Aussie is always bright and air is lovely. Malaysia has no regulation on carbon emissions of vehicles so we have higher risk of respiratory illnesses. Lots of vehicles spewing white and black smoke everywhere.

4 seasons - This is a personal preference. Some people like the constant weather in tropical countries. I enjoy colder weather and the changing seasons. Watching the tree leaves become green then orange then fall off. Melbourne has a pretty mild winter. I just don't enjoy how fast the weather changes. It can hail and be sunny in the same hour.

Good food - I enjoy cooking more Western dishes and the groceries in Aussie are more affordable. Beef in Malaysia is imported from Aussie and super expensive (60 MYR/kg). Milk in Malaysia is getting really expensive despite being produced locally. It was cheap to eat healthy in Aussie in uni as long as I cooked. Going out is expensive, but it is also expensive in Malaysia. Cheap food is easier to find in Malaysia but it is often dirty, oily and low quality. Food hygiene isn't very good here. The local food is also very high in calories but I will admit much tastier than Australian local food. I managed to find very very good Asian food in Melbourne so I am not concerned about missing home.

Education - For future kids - good education in public schools. I have young cousins and the difference between their public schools and Malaysian ones is staggering. They are more mature and open minded at a young age. Also tertiary education is cheaper in Australia as a domestic student. In Malaysia we send our kids to Australia anyway to study which costs a lot. Up to millions.

Cars - Me and SO like cars but Malaysia has the 2nd most expensive car prices in the world so we cannot afford them. Also everyone has to drive the few same overpriced terrible cars here. Cannot wait to buy a good one in Australia.

Culture - Malaysian culture is very self centered and rude and racist. I prefer the culture in Australia. Always a good show or event to be had around the city as well.

That is all I can think of at the moment (at work)
I cannot edit my recent posts anymore so I am sorry for double posting... I just wish to add more to my existing post seeing as others enjoyed the different perspective. Also the original was written in a hurry with fragmented sentences as it was written at work and I have a mechanical keyboard (LOUD). Great for mashing out code but not for stealth typing. I cleaned it up and added more elaboration and another point.

Fresh air - Malaysia isn't as polluted as some countries (China!) but the sky can be smoggy sometimes and the phenomenon known as haze occurs every year! However, there wasn't any haze in 2017 which was a surprise. Hopefully it won't return. The sky in Australia is always bright and air is lovely and fresh. Probably attributed to the lower number of vehicles and tighter regulations on vehicles - inspections and emissions. In Malaysia we have no regulations on the carbon emissions of vehicles. Lots of vehicles spewing white and black smoke everywhere. A lot of them are also poorly maintained. Unfortunately I can't find any statistics on our rate of respiratory illnesses but it surely can't be harmless.

Four seasons - This is purely personal preference. I am aware some enjoy the constant predictable weather and temperature in tropical countries. For myself, however, I enjoy lower temperatures and especially love the changing seasons. I love to watch the tree leaves become green then orange and then finally falling off. Melbourne has a pretty mild winter with the average being 8 degrees C when I was there. I just didn't enjoy how fast the weather changes. It can hail and be sunny within minutes. As they say, Melbourne has 4 seasons in an hour.

Good food - I enjoy cooking more Western dishes and the groceries in Aussie are more affordable. Beef in Malaysia is imported from Australia and super expensive (300g of beef chuck costs 23 MYR whereas 2 chicken breasts cost 10-13 MYR). Local beef is pathetic and can only be found in dirty markets, not mid-range supermarkets. Milk in Malaysia is getting really expensive despite being produced locally (6-8 MYR/litre). It was cheap to eat healthy in Aussie in uni as long as I cooked. Going out is expensive, but it is also expensive in Malaysia. Cheap food is easier to find in Malaysia but it is often dirty, oily and low in quality. Food hygiene also isn't very good here. For example, the staff of a restaurant were caught recently washing plates in a puddle of water. I saw a popular restaurant in another town leaving chicken in buckets of water next to the entrance of the toilets. This may not be something unique to Malaysia but regardless it is a problem, no matter how "normal" it seems. The local food is also very high in calories but I will admit much tastier than Australian local food . We tend to use many many herbs and spices to make our dishes which makes the flavors wonderfully complex. However, I managed to find very very good Asian food in Melbourne so I am not concerned about missing home

Education - For future kids - good education in public schools. I have young cousins and the difference between their public schools and Malaysian ones is staggering. They are more mature and open minded at a young age. Also tertiary education is cheaper in Australia as a domestic student. In Malaysia we send our kids to Australia anyway to study which costs a lot - up to 1 million and beyond. Of course we Malaysians can send our kids to international and private schools to get comparable education but again it costs millions.

Cars - Me and SO like cars but Malaysia has the 2nd most expensive car prices in the world so we cannot afford them. Also everyone has to drive the few same overpriced terrible quality cars here because the government was trying to encourage people to buy the local brand cars in the 80s. So a car like a Toyota Camry costs 30k AUD but 160k MYR. The exchange rate is ~3 MYR to 1 AUD so it is supposed to cost 90k MYR but we pay 70k MYR more. Furthermore, our cars deliberately come with less safety features for more money. It seems we are just catching up to the late 2000s or early 2010s. We cannot wait to buy a good one in Australia .

Culture - Malaysian culture is very self centered, rude and racist. People are always in a hurry for no reason and will cut you off at queues and drive past the red light almost hitting you (in car or on 2 feet) to save a few minutes. I very much prefer the more laid back culture in Australia. Cashiers at least greet you although it is hard to get used to. Our racism is institutionalized, people of a certain race have discounts for houses, better interest rates in banks, more opportunities for business and more places in public universities (this one is improving). Also, always a good show or event to be had around cities like Melbourne. I liked festivals like Moomba and White Night. Also the magic shows in Federation Square.

Lower cost of living - This is very strange to read isn't it? Sydney is well known to have one of the highest costs of living in the world. But it isn't rosy in Malaysia either despite what the politicians want us to think. We only appear as a lower cost of living country because the lists are in USD and MYR weakened against it in 2015 from ~3.3 MYR to ~4 MYR to 1 USD. That plus the introduction of GST (recently zero rated in June 18) drove prices sky high because people were using it as an excuse to raise prices much higher than they should be. I already outlined the costs for meat, milk and cars here in my earlier points but I didn't mention the median salary. It is ~2500 MYR. I love a report by UBS, a Swiss Bank about cost of living. An example it gave is an iPhone 6. In Australia it takes a person a few days of working to buy one but it takes a Malaysian a month because the price is more than most people's salaries. The price of a house is definitely more expensive in Australia but I hope it is offset by other things being cheaper. Electronics are also more expensive in Australia than the US or Europe. Another example, PS4 Pro is about 600 AUD but 1.7k MYR and a MFi cable I bought from Amazon UK (family member ran away a long time ago and became a citizen) cost me 35 MYR but buying the exact same thing here would cost 120 MYR. Salaries also seem to be high in Australia especially for a software developer like me (I am the partner).

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You are welcome. Just be positive and don't worry about anything at the moment. Being negative will only give you sleepless nights.

I come from a technical background and for the past 1.5 years, I am into business. We have sacrificed a lot to make things work. To be honest, once I get a PR, I wont be even applying for a job that requires my technical experience. I am going to use my business experience as a value addition and look for a change in career path. I know it is not going to be easy. So shouldn't I be more worried than those whose are looking for jobs within their core competencies???? Don't you think I am fool to even try this especially in a country like Australia?

Well! At the moment, job is the least of my concerns because I know I will survive and Australia is not the end of the world for me. If you are able to convince the people who are most important to you, then you really don't have to worry about anything.
Very true Mate, I can completely relate to what you have gone through and the kind of self-confidence that you treasure in taking such a bold decision. I left my high paying job in one of the Top software giants in the world - only because I wanted to try differently in my life. I had been working on it for the last 11 months now and I am gonna stick to it until I succeed no matter what country I move to. For me, the main reason for trying to get the PR is to experience the new country and new life (Not that I have too much money, in fact, I have none left). I just know I can survive(and at that to the best of my wishes), So why not challenge myself out of my comfort zone?

BTW all that Gyann coz.. your comment resonated very well with my thoughts and current situation Cheers

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