Got my attention - Page 5

Go Back   Expat Forum For People Moving Overseas And Living Abroad > Asia > Philippines Expat Forum

Philippines Expat Forum The Philippines Expats Forum is dedicated those individuals that have chosen to make Philippines their new home. This forum is an ideal place for Expats now living in Philippines to meet and discuss all aspects to their new way of life.

Like Tree24Likes

Got my attention - Page 5


Closed Thread
 
Subscribe to this Thread Thread Tools
  #41 (permalink)  
Old 22nd March 2013, 06:31 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Subic Freeport Zone
Posts: 1,065
Rep Power: 219
jon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond repute
1249 likes received
431 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene and Viol View Post
Hey Jon, What's up? You and I got very lucky with the wives we have for sure. But I'll tell ya what, if I had the problems or anywhere near the problems some of these guys do, I'd be on a fast horse outa Dodge City! In-laws and wifes that want to kill a guy? That kinda stuff is okay for the movies but in real life--count me out...


gene
Gene,

I am doing alright. And yes you and I did luck out. I warned mine in the beginning that I would not put up with any of the aforesaid drama and activities. I also told her to get the word out that the $ is mine not OURS=her + extended family. It took about 3 years but they finally got the message. The pinoys can be quite juvenile when it comes to perceived slights and solutions to dilemmas (don't mean this in a slanderous way, just to demonstrate a mindset).

The key for me was the communication with her and her family. I told her that the extended family drain was one of the most common causes for failed relationships.

Fortunately for me, she listened and as she was already the defacto Head of household, they had to listen, put up and shut up.

Jon
Asian Spirit and M.C.A. like this.

Quick reply to this message
  #42 (permalink)  
Old 22nd March 2013, 07:13 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Leeds
Posts: 65
Rep Power: 156
DannyRDG is a jewel in the roughDannyRDG is a jewel in the roughDannyRDG is a jewel in the rough
54 likes received
3 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from england. Users Flag! Expat in cyprus.
Default

Why, oh why, would anyone want to build their house to resemble something like Fort Knox? Who wants to spend their life "in paradise" as so many people say on various threads, living inside a prison camp, getting a stripey suntan from behind barred windows? It does nothing more than attract attention to any would be burglar that there is something valuable inside. Not only that but it is also a hazard to yourself, if god forbid, your house catches fire and your only escape is through a window! Has anyone ever heard of camouflage and concealment? Fortresses stick out like a sore thumb, blend in with the local population and people won't even know you're there!

There is sometimes some very good advice posted on this forum about personal safety, some of which I have adopted myself when out and about in AC. I think some peoples mentality on safety goes slightly overboard though. I also think there is a massive problem with how foreigners generally treat Pinoys. I have a philosophy that you should talk and treat people the way you wish to be talked and treated to yourself.

There is good and bad in all walks of life, it doesn't matter if your black, Asian, Christian or Muslim, we are all human beings, some are just luckier than others. I am sick to death of hearing foreigners talk to Pinoys as though they are untermensch. What gives you the right to talk to them this way? I was sat in a restaurant not so long ago opposite 2 Australian guys who constantly slated Pinoys for various reasons, in earshot of all the waitresses and other Pinoy diners. When I finished my meal and got up to leave, I went to their table and said "if you don't like it here, you can always leave and return back to your own country." They just stared at me and didn't say a word. On my next visit to the restaurant, one of the waitresses thanked me for what I had said. So many times I have seen and heard foreigners talk very rudely to street vendors or women in bars as though they were dogs! What is wrong with a simple "no thank you" and a smile? These people are only trying to make a living, to put a roof over their family's heads and a meal on the table. I, at times am ashamed to be a foreigner in this beautiful country. Is it any wonder so many foreigners are murdered. A little respect to these local people goes a very long way! Look after your neighbours and your neighbours will look after you!

I am very very lucky, my asawa lives in Canada with her parents and is set for life when we retire back to the Philippines. I get on tremendously well with both her brothers and their family's, so much so that when we do retire, we will all live on one big plot together. I have NEVER heard them ask for money to be sent to them. We send money when we feel like it or when its a special occasion. I happily sit under the mango tree playing tonghits and drinking beer every night im back visiting. My brother in law actually brings round his work colleagues for a beer and food just so we can all sit together as blokes and chat. I find every one of his friends charming and so easy to get on with!

I think people on this forum need to stop being so insular and get out meet more Pinoys! Not all of them want to murder you for your last peso!

As for many posters on here wanting to be able to legally own a weapon, this is the Philippines NOT the USA. The stars and stripes DO NOT fly on government buildings and it is NOT your right to own one! Most burglars generally DO NOT carry a gun, a baseball bat to their upper torso is enough!

I thank you!
Asian Spirit and thing71 like this.

Quick reply to this message
  #43 (permalink)  
Old 22nd March 2013, 08:48 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Subic Freeport Zone
Posts: 1,065
Rep Power: 219
jon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond repute
1249 likes received
431 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kermit123 View Post
well what ever it needs to feel safe if its gun or bat respect ppl choice and if thay feel safe in fort knox then its up to them your lucky or not ( i d say ) in canada thats your choice not mine i like it here so with guns cctv and rest security ill stop here thanks and you stop there , not every one is saying that every pinoy will kill you but better not to give em chance to , even killers are charming to your face what you think a killers got a sign on his forehead im a killer pmsl , and as far as what you think well i think you can work out what i think with out me typeing it and im not stars and strips its british flag here , it might not be your right to own gun here but it is your right to protect yourself and family and your property , and a gun poretty much sums up what i and my pinoy wife thinks is best idea 2 s&w 40 cal m&p pretty much stop most things and if thay dont the ak47 will
man kermit, you must be payin a fortune for the 40 cal ammo. I had a .45 (Colt Commander) as it was easy to get ammo dirt cheap (5p/round for reloads (hollow point and teflon) and I think 20p (ball) for new). I wanted an AK but never got round to it. You gotta have a reliable ammo source for that as the government will sometimes dole out bad ammo to help rid themselves of illegal weapons...

You always have to appear a "hard" target or you will be taken advantage of for sure. Another tip, never stop if you get "bumped" in a minor accident. It is a common tactic for getting you out of your vehicle (to inspect for damage) and subsequently kidnapped. My plan was to keep on driving and only stop when I reached a barangay police station that I was familiar with (for me it was Divisoria or the downtown station). Then I would plead my case with them if it was a legitimate accident, acting like the dumb foreigner where in your home country you do not bother the police with on site reports but just fill out a form later on (sometimes even over the phone)...

Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #44 (permalink)  
Old 22nd March 2013, 08:59 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Subic Freeport Zone
Posts: 1,065
Rep Power: 219
jon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond repute
1249 likes received
431 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyRDG View Post
I think people on this forum need to stop being so insular and get out meet more Pinoys! Not all of them want to murder you for your last peso!
After 6+ years, I feel that the following is true...

Until you have actually lived here for a while (not on vacation) and witness first hand the day to day antics over an extended period of time, you really do not have a clue.

It can test the patience of Job, and granted not ALL are bad. But the few bad ones make it hard to meet the good. For me it's just being streetwise and not walking around with Rose colored glasses as the tourists and dreamers do. Most of those are taken advantage of and don't even know it.

I give respect and expect it in return. I guard myself with all people and nationalities (especially expats). Trust has to be earned and is never given freely (too many newbies place trust too soon).

This forum is about exchanging information, pointing out common pitfulls, foolish dreams, cultural feau paxs and practices. It is also about learning the best ways TOO interact with the filipinos and be a respected GUEST in their country.
Asian Spirit likes this.

Quick reply to this message
  #45 (permalink)  
Old 22nd March 2013, 10:15 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Leeds
Posts: 65
Rep Power: 156
DannyRDG is a jewel in the roughDannyRDG is a jewel in the roughDannyRDG is a jewel in the rough
54 likes received
3 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from england. Users Flag! Expat in cyprus.
Default

Kermit,

What the he** are you expecting at your house? World war 3 to start? Are you waiting for hordes of Pinoy burglars to scale your walls and try to enter? Why would you want an AK47? Surely a 9mm browning would suffice especially inside your house! I was less tooled up patrolling the streets of Basra!

Jon,

It might have been a vacation but an 8 month one though! I was doing my research before finally deciding that the Philippines was the place for me to retire. Remember, the 7 p's. Prior Planning and Preparation, Prevents Piss Poor Performance!


Last edited by Asian Spirit; 22nd March 2013 at 11:34 PM.
Quick reply to this message
  #46 (permalink)  
Old 22nd March 2013, 10:27 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Subic Freeport Zone
Posts: 1,065
Rep Power: 219
jon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond repute
1249 likes received
431 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyRDG View Post
Kermit,

What the hell are you expecting at your house? World war 3 to start? Are you waiting for hordes of Pinoy burglars to scale your walls and try to enter? Why would you want an AK47? Surely a 9mm browning would suffice especially inside your house! I was less tooled up patrolling the streets of Basra!

Jon,

It might have been a vacation but an 8 month one though! I was doing my research before finally deciding that the Philippines was the place for me to retire. Remember, the 7 p's. Prior Planning and Preparation, Prevents Piss Poor Performance!
Danny,

Noted on the P's you don't have to preach those to me.. Have lived in a contingency mode for 30+ years. I am just saying that until you take the plunge it's a whole different story. Just make sure that you don't set your expectations too high is what I am saying and be realistic about any goals.

On kermit, I can understand his position 100% as I have lived in his area. I had a strong setup too (3M wall with electrified spikes, two 80lb german shepherds, 1 watchdog, and a 45). I also traveled in highly tinted vehicles that blended in with the local crowd. There are no secrets here and especially where he lives. So a little "advertising" to some people will make them second guess about going after you (I am referring to kidnappings not robbery/burglary). The dogs alone would deter most burglars (not the ones who try to poison them). Where he lives, kidnapping is the primary security concern......
Asian Spirit and M.C.A. like this.

Quick reply to this message
  #47 (permalink)  
Old 22nd March 2013, 11:44 PM
Asian Spirit's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Philippines
Posts: 6,008
Rep Power: 538
Asian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond repute
4098 likes received
5087 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1 View Post
Gene,

I am doing alright. And yes you and I did luck out. I warned mine in the beginning that I would not put up with any of the aforesaid drama and activities. I also told her to get the word out that the $ is mine not OURS=her + extended family. It took about 3 years but they finally got the message. The pinoys can be quite juvenile when it comes to perceived slights and solutions to dilemmas (don't mean this in a slanderous way, just to demonstrate a mindset).

The key for me was the communication with her and her family. I told her that the extended family drain was one of the most common causes for failed relationships.

Fortunately for me, she listened and as she was already the defacto Head of household, they had to listen, put up and shut up.

Jon
Yep, it really is a learning experience (for both sides of the family). I like you thoughts on respect being earned and using caution with other expats. So many of the expats (especially in the Angeles area) are those that simply can't make it in their own country and like water seeking the lowest level, drift into the gutters here. Unfortunately, these are they that give ALL of us expats and vacationers a bad name.

Without any doubt, the Philippines needs a lot of improvement in many things. But in all the years of living here, I have had better luck and more enjoyment with our friendships with locals than expats

Would love to continue the discussion with ya on this for fun but I had to delete one post and close the thread.

Hey, what are you doing online on a Saturday? You're supposed to be laying around some beach with the family-Hahahaha!!



Gene

__________________
https://www.lds.org/young-women/reso...es/yw-logo.pngHusbands love your wives well! Your children are watching how you treat her.
You are teaching your sons how they should treat women and you are teaching
your daughters what they should expect from men..

Be part of Flight Aware Free




-------------------------------------------------------------------
Visit Expat Forum on Facebook too...
Quick reply to this message
Closed Thread


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Expat Forum For People Moving Overseas And Living Abroad forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Location
Where you live
Expat From Country
Please select the country you originate from. This will appear as a flag when you make posts on the site.
Expat To Country
Please select the country you have either moved to or want to relocate to. This will be presented on the site when you make posts.

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Re: MEDICAL ATTENTION mushuga Italy Expat Forum for Expats Living in Italy 0 17th October 2011 07:31 AM
Attention, Banknotes! DeadGuy Egypt Expat Forum for Expats Living in Egypt 2 18th May 2010 09:03 AM
Attention all ! nihariku Australia Expat Forum for Expats Living in Australia 20 24th August 2009 06:45 AM
Medicals and PCC - for attention of Anj LoveOz Australia Expat Forum for Expats Living in Australia 38 18th August 2009 06:39 PM
attention Anuruddha Japan Expat Forum for Expats Living in Japan 1 18th July 2008 07:07 AM

FORUM PARTNERS

ExpatForum.com is owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc.

Retiring Overseas Guides | Moving Overseas Guides | Cost of Living | Health Care Guides


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.