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Old 10th March 2015, 05:04 AM
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I know I have said this before but it still amazes me why Filipinos even bother with Tagalog when there are so many dialects and variations. Everything in the business world here is in English...all government offices signage is English...billboards are in English...store front signs are all in English...television commercials are in English...they teach English in all the schools...college and university classes are taught in English and not Tagalog...legal documents and contracts are all in English...everywhere I go, (malls, markets, movie theaters, taxi's, etc.), are all in English...so why doesn't the general population just speak English? (This is not really a question but more of an observation).

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Never heard of any. National Bookstore barely even sells any Tagalog books for non-natives. Tagalog is essentially a dead language outside of the Philippines. Save for the Mormons. That's why people here struggle to learn English. Good luck learning the other 200 languages native to this country!

Your best bet is to just get some books and mps. You can torrent them too. Even PDFs. Watch GMA and ABS-CBN, and talk to you friends and workmates. Or even make tambay!
Why do you think Tagalog is a dead language outside of the Philippines?
When I over-hear Filipinas in foreign countries, like on a bus in Norway, they are speaking Tagalog with each other.
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@unggoy, The thread on which we were discussing the differences between Tagalog and Filipino disappeared, at least for me.

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I don't use wikipedia, as it has no real information on it. How could you quote that stuff?

Any how, I am uncertain what you are trying to say, but Tagalog is certainly not the national language. Why do people say that?
Apparently, people say that because of the history of the Philippines.
(I am just gathering this from articles on the web, not first hand.)

My understanding is that there was, and perhaps is, much rancor caused by declaring Tagalog as a National language. So, when writing Constitutions in the Philippines, the term "Filipino" has been used for political expediency. However, the language is still Tagalog at its base.

I am not sure what source you would find most believeable.
Would you change your mind if I found a suitable source document, or are you firmly entrenched in your stance?

I am open to changing my viewpoint and I realise that you have more knowledge and experience using the actual languages in question.

Can you provide a source which helps support your position?
I will read through it and try to learn.

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Oddly i cant find that thread about speaking tagalog.

To shed some light, tagalog is "supposed" to be the primary language for the philippines. But there are 200 dialects in the country. I.e. Cebuano dialect for cebu, ilocano for ilocos and the northern part of luzon, kapampangan for pampanga, so on and so forth.

Tagalog english or tag-lish as we locals love to call it is a perfect way to practice while still being able to communicate .

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Thanks for the feedback...I'll let you know if I find out anything. I have also been told that this is why most every business sign is in English because the wording is short, concise and to the point and a Tagalog sign would be so much longer in wording and take so much more materials to produce the larger more detailed sign.

I understand that the Filipino people want to keep their cultural identity and not totally lose their language but I wonder why many of them even use the Tagalog language since English is taught in all the schools, all street signs, advertising and businesses are in English, Billboards and Malls are all in English and all government offices post English signage, (I have NEVER seen a Tagalog sign in any government facility).

Everywhere I go and everything I see here is always in English yet the vast majority of the local people still communicate in Tagalog to each other while their own country and government chooses to use English.

I have even noticed that in current technology there are not even any Tagalog words available, so computer language and electronics are ALL in English.

Hopefully we will receive some information about any available language courses.
Filipinos use English as the main teaching method because the education system was built by the Americans when the Philippines was colonized way back when. Though natural speaking method is in Tagalog.

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[QUOTE=EuroBob;6632218]@unggoy, The thread on which we were discussing the differences between Tagalog and Filipino disappeared, at least for me.


Poof! lol Things were getting rather "insulting" and into the gutter I recall.

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Filipinos use English as the main teaching method because the education system was built by the Americans when the Philippines was colonized way back when. Though natural speaking method is in Tagalog.
And rightfully it is being changed to mother tongue teaching in the new syllabus

While pArt the world may want English what about those who are French speaking ? How about former Spanish colonies ? And regardless you like it or not mandarin is now the language of majority .. So ?????

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Oddly i cant find that thread about speaking tagalog.

To shed some light, tagalog is "supposed" to be the primary language for the philippines. But there are 200 dialects in the country. I.e. Cebuano dialect for cebu, ilocano for ilocos and the northern part of luzon, kapampangan for pampanga, so on and so forth.

Tagalog english or tag-lish as we locals love to call it is a perfect way to practice while still being able to communicate .

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As I said mother tongue teaching is being introduced to ensure children pick up faster in their mother tongue with Tagalog as secondary language and English as thitd language

That's working fine in Luzon / mountain provinces

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I know I have said this before but it still amazes me why Filipinos even bother with Tagalog when there are so many dialects and variations. Everything in the business world here is in English...all government offices signage is English...billboards are in English...store front signs are all in English...television commercials are in English...they teach English in all the schools...college and university classes are taught in English and not Tagalog...legal documents and contracts are all in English...everywhere I go, (malls, markets, movie theaters, taxi's, etc.), are all in English...so why doesn't the general population just speak English? (This is not really a question but more of an observation).
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