US Tax ID or SS number for the wife

Go Back   Expat Forum For People Moving Overseas And Living Abroad > Asia > Philippines Expat Forum

Philippines Expat Forum The Philippines Expats Forum is dedicated those individuals that have chosen to make Philippines their new home. This forum is an ideal place for Expats now living in Philippines to meet and discuss all aspects to their new way of life.

Like Tree3Likes
  • 3 Post By jon1

US Tax ID or SS number for the wife


Reply
 
Subscribe to this Thread Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 13th February 2015, 01:59 AM
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Luzon
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 115
JakeSaPI is a jewel in the roughJakeSaPI is a jewel in the roughJakeSaPI is a jewel in the roughJakeSaPI is a jewel in the rough
29 likes received
4 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default US Tax ID or SS number for the wife

A friend told me there is a US Tax or SS number you can get for your Filipino wife so you can claim her on your taxes. He called it an International SS number? Anyone know about this? I've looked online but haven't come across anything. To claim a dependent there has to be some kind of ID number, how does this work?

Thanks

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 13th February 2015, 02:08 AM
Asian Spirit's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Philippines
Posts: 6,008
Rep Power: 556
Asian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond reputeAsian Spirit has a reputation beyond repute
4101 likes received
5087 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeSaPI View Post
A friend told me there is a US Tax or SS number you can get for your Filipino wife so you can claim her on your taxes. He called it an International SS number? Anyone know about this? I've looked online but haven't come across anything. To claim a dependent there has to be some kind of ID number, how does this work?

Thanks
Jake, that's a new one on me and I deal with Social Security at the embassy by phone from time to time.

To get absolute legal information, On the Embassy website go to This Page and contact them there by email or phone. I have always found them very helpful.



Jet Lag

__________________
https://www.lds.org/young-women/reso...es/yw-logo.pngHusbands love your wives well! Your children are watching how you treat her.
You are teaching your sons how they should treat women and you are teaching
your daughters what they should expect from men..

Be part of Flight Aware Free




-------------------------------------------------------------------
Visit Expat Forum on Facebook too...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 13th February 2015, 02:43 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Mandurriao,Iloilo,Phils
Posts: 1,331
Rep Power: 248
fmartin_gila has much to be proud offmartin_gila has much to be proud offmartin_gila has much to be proud offmartin_gila has much to be proud offmartin_gila has much to be proud offmartin_gila has much to be proud offmartin_gila has much to be proud offmartin_gila has much to be proud of
1432 likes received
1075 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

We file a joint return as she was issued a regular S.S. number after we were married in the US and while living there, subsequently moving here. I have no thoughts if your Wife has not been to the US.

Fred

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 13th February 2015, 04:40 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Subic Freeport Zone
Posts: 1,065
Rep Power: 236
jon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond reputejon1 has a reputation beyond repute
1250 likes received
431 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Read thru this Jake. You are looking for an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) for your wife not a SSAN as she is not a US Citizen.

Tax Topics - Topic 857 Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN)
https://americansabroad.org/issues/t...erican-spouse/
New Rules for Obtaining Foreign National U.S. Tax Identification Numbers

If you still have questions, I would inquire at the Embassy to see if there is an IRS agent in residence or scheduled to be available before Apr 15 and set up an appointment if allowed.

__________________
Life is great!!

http://www.lifeinsubic.com/
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 13th February 2015, 09:07 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Aloguinsan, Cebu
Posts: 152
Rep Power: 131
George6020 is a splendid one to beholdGeorge6020 is a splendid one to beholdGeorge6020 is a splendid one to beholdGeorge6020 is a splendid one to beholdGeorge6020 is a splendid one to beholdGeorge6020 is a splendid one to behold
142 likes received
200 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Like Jon1 just stated, you can apply for the ITIN for your wife, which allows you to include her on your tax forms. If you look at form 1040, it states to put SSN or ITIN in the designated line.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 13th February 2015, 03:53 PM
Nickleback99's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NW Washington State, USA
Posts: 549
Rep Power: 199
Nickleback99 is just really niceNickleback99 is just really niceNickleback99 is just really niceNickleback99 is just really niceNickleback99 is just really nice
535 likes received
2233 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

Jon and George hit it right on. She'd have to come to U.S. and obtain even an initial green card to get a SSN, which my wife received about a month after arrival in 2012 w/ her green card. Also, track all of your comms and paperwork w/ IRS well on this, as they Lost my ITN paperwork that I spent well over 100$ for FedEx to send to her then her to them back in 2011...I had it FedEx'd exactly to where in Texas they directed I send it, but someone there obviously screwed up and lost it, and then my return got rejected for filing Married w/ Dependents as well and they of course then "stole" my money. I'm filing an Amended return w/ the SSN and see if that flies and get some money back. As commercial here says, "The IRS is the most powerful and ruthless collection agency on the planet.".....Yes they Are!

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 17th February 2015, 07:40 AM
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Antipolo
Posts: 774
Rep Power: 0
197649 is a splendid one to behold197649 is a splendid one to behold197649 is a splendid one to behold197649 is a splendid one to behold197649 is a splendid one to behold197649 is a splendid one to behold197649 is a splendid one to behold
858 likes received
199 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from usa. Users Flag! Expat in philippines.
Default

You don't need to do anything until you file taxes. Then you claim her and apply for the ITIN. When you get your tax return or whatever they send you it will include the ITIN. I did it when my wife and I got married. Unless they changed the rules its pretty easy and straight forward. The bad part is then she is liable to file taxes as well even though she is not a US citizen they got you coming and going.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Expat Forum For People Moving Overseas And Living Abroad forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Location
Where you live
Expat From Country
Please select the country you originate from. This will appear as a flag when you make posts on the site.
Expat To Country
Please select the country you have either moved to or want to relocate to. This will be presented on the site when you make posts.

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NIE number for non EU wife. Peter J. Veldman Spain Expat Forum for Expats Living in Spain 3 18th July 2014 12:19 PM
Tax File Number help! Easton141 Australia Expat Forum for Expats Living in Australia 3 10th April 2013 11:21 AM
tax number suzie5555 Australia Expat Forum for Expats Living in Australia 6 10th September 2012 06:53 AM
Residencia, tax number and so forth?! AHKS Portugal Expat Forum for Expats Living in Portugal 14 7th July 2012 05:45 AM
Regarding Tax File number umera.adhnan Australia Expat Forum for Expats Living in Australia 2 10th April 2012 04:52 AM

FORUM PARTNERS

ExpatForum.com is owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc.

Retiring Overseas Guides | Moving Overseas Guides | Cost of Living | Health Care Guides


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.