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Absolutely correct again JL. 100%

Another part of my conundrum is deciding between North Luzon where I love or some place closer to Manila, eg. Angeles or Subic areas.

The VA clinic is just south of Ermita center at the US embassy Seafront complex:

1501 Roxas Boulevard
Pasay City, PI 1302

Phone: 632-550-3888 Or 632-318-8387
Fax: 632-310-5957

Here's a link if permitted: Manila Outpatient Clinic - Locations
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not in a bad way, Filipino culture can be a real shock, even for those who have lived in other parts of the world !

A simple eye opener ..

http://www.expatforum.com/expats/5809321-post31.html

And when I was in the mountain, I was told to lock everything, as the people have a habit of coming in, and taking whatever they like .. including my umbrella, a whole bag of chocolates I brought for some kids there, my Shoe / mud Protector .. and more ..though one of them were expensive and didn't hurt me ..

All the host could say was "ah, somebody TOOK IT" .. and then life went on ..

And in return, when the folks nearby knew there is a visitor, they didn't come empty handed - each person had some of this or that, from the super spicy small chilly, to a guy who brought a Pig Liver, and somebody who brought Black Rice (never asked how it becomes black) .. to pots of Rice Wine !!

Life is fun, if you can adapt, or you will have heart aches and stress factor multiplied too many times !
Good post and I agree with all >> except the statement on stress. Frustrating at times, yes. But in the 12 years or so that I have lived here, I have not once experienced the stress of living back home in the States.
I'm sure that is due at least in part to having in wonderful wife and family, but I can't imagine any place (except a war zone) as stressful as the streets of Los Angeles, Las Vegas, or New York and the like.

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Good post and I agree with all >> except the statement on stress. Frustrating at times, yes. But in the 12 years or so that I have lived here, I have not once experienced the stress of living back home in the States.
I'm sure that is due at least in part to having in wonderful wife and family, but I can't imagine any place (except a war zone) as stressful as the streets of Los Angeles, Las Vegas, or New York and the like.
re, the stress factor, my 2 cents ..

To beat the stress, plan ahead, like a day ahead for anything.. like to catch a flight tomorrow evening, leave for Manila today .

And if it is a Holy week, book your hotels like a few months ahead, and add a day to the expected travel jam ..

To go from Malate to Mall of Asia, which, maps show should take 20 minutes, plan 2 hours - factoring the traffic at times.

plan for typhoons and disruptions and .. such ..

Most importantly, learn to be patient, patient and more patient..

Don't expect things to happen quickly .. and that may beat the stress factor I guess !

If you are used to things happening on their own, and timelines being met/without supervision, you may be in for a big time stressful times !!

PS, planning ahead in Philippines is pretty useful. like during the Holy week, a thousand people queue to buy bus tickets, when they could have bought it way ahead.

And likewise, closer to the travel dates, flight tickets go flying, a few months ahead, they are all unsold. "GENERALLY" Filipinos like to do things on the go .. even though they know that in two months they have to go to province ..

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Well I figure I will have about $4000 US a month so I need a place that I can live on for that. I am starting my life over. I have lived all over the world having been in the Army for 20 years so I am use to being in other countries.
Thank you for your service. I'm Ret-USAF, PI since 83 live in La Union.

May I suggest that you thoroughly read each of The Active Links on the Clark RAO Websites. It is tailored specifically for US Military Retirees in the PI.

RAO Website

You have the option of joining this yahoo Group who can answer a lot of your questions as well.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...ilippines/info

Since it's your first time here, you may want to consider your visits around VFW posts in the PI. All are located in tourist areas and you can easily walk in and find the help or information that you need.

PACAF VFW POST LINKS

Although not all of places to stay are listed, Agoda is a good site to find accommodations in the PI

Agoda.com: Smarter Hotel Booking

Stay mobile, visit different beach, mountainous and inland areas and sooner or later you will find your new home.
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Since it's your first time here, you may want to consider your visits around VFW posts in the PI. All are located in tourist areas and you can easily walk in and find the help or information that you need.
That's a great idea for a military retiree newbie to the country!
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I am trying to get away from stress
The most common cause of stress over here seems to be that people have unrealistic expectations of standards and ways of getting things done.

This is not the US or the EU. You will not get things done in a timely manner. Set your expectations low and do not be in a hurry. All that does is lead to frustration and stress. If you are an inflexible person, the PI is not for you. If you are laid back, then you will do fine here.

I know of quite a few unhappy campers over hear that like to bicker about this or that and want to do nothing but complain.

You will be busy setting up your new household for the first six months and then once settled in, start to really see things that have been happening in the background.

This last 8 months for me has been the best time of my life. I am purposely taking a year off after working in adverse conditions for 7 years.

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I know of quite a few unhappy campers over hear that like to bicker about this or that and want to do nothing but complain.
I hope that didn't include me As much as I like to tell people about reality, I also remind them of the attractiveness of Philippines !!!

Life on the slow lane is what you need to be happy, in Philippines !!!

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re, the stress factor, my 2 cents ..

To beat the stress, plan ahead, like a day ahead for anything.. like to catch a flight tomorrow evening, leave for Manila today .

And if it is a Holy week, book your hotels like a few months ahead, and add a day to the expected travel jam ..

To go from Malate to Mall of Asia, which, maps show should take 20 minutes, plan 2 hours - factoring the traffic at times.

plan for typhoons and disruptions and .. such ..

Most importantly, learn to be patient, patient and more patient..

Don't expect things to happen quickly .. and that may beat the stress factor I guess !

If you are used to things happening on their own, and timelines being met/without supervision, you may be in for a big time stressful times !!

PS, planning ahead in Philippines is pretty useful. like during the Holy week, a thousand people queue to buy bus tickets, when they could have bought it way ahead.

And likewise, closer to the travel dates, flight tickets go flying, a few months ahead, they are all unsold. "GENERALLY" Filipinos like to do things on the go .. even though they know that in two months they have to go to province ..
You don't even need to do that much planning sometimes. No matter what airport I am at in the world including Manila I can always find the Philippine Airlines check in counter by looking for the long line up. Philippine Airlines international is the absolute worst for that I have ever seen. Not sure about domestic.

However, they have internet check in up to 24hours before your flight that almost nobody uses. They have a dedicated check in line for that. Even better, when the business class counters are not busy they will usually wave you in there. You would think all the Filippinos standing in the regular line up for hours watching this would have figured out that they could just use web check and be out of there in minutes. No extra cost. Even if you get the web check in wrong they can fix it at the counter so it's no different than regular check in. All it takes is a couple minutes on a website before you go to the airport...lol.

I've never had to wait in line more than 5 minutes whereas regular check is often over an hour.
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