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Zone199 27th October 2013 07:04 AM

Will the Philippines recognize my American divorce from my Philippine wife?
 
Iím retired and hope to be moving to the Philippines within the next year.

Unfortunately my Philippine wife and I divorces some years ago. But we are still best of friends, believe it or not. In any case, Iíve heard there is no divorce in the Philippines. Since our divorced was done in America, Iím wondering what my status will be in the Philippines.

Will the government still consider us married?

Thanks
Maxx

Asian Spirit 27th October 2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zone199 (Post 2175162)
Iím retired and hope to be moving to the Philippines within the next year.

Unfortunately my Philippine wife and I divorces some years ago. But we are still best of friends, believe it or not. In any case, Iíve heard there is no divorce in the Philippines. Since our divorced was done in America, Iím wondering what my status will be in the Philippines.

Will the government still consider us married?

Thanks
Maxx

My understanding is that since your divorce was done there and IF she is an American citizen, it will be valid and recognized here. However, this still may not be the case as I have never had to deal with that situation. As such, it might pay to contact the American Citizens Services office at the American Embassy in Manila to hopefully get good solid info...

197649 27th October 2013 11:32 AM

If your still in the US I recommend you contact the Philippine Embassy in DC

DannyRDG 28th October 2013 12:15 AM

My asawa is a filipina and her cousin married another Filipino. They divorced last year in Canada. He returned to the Philippines in September to marry his new partner, armed with his divorce papers. Unfortunately he was told that he had to apply for annulment as the Philippines does not recognise his divorce!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!

pauloz 28th October 2013 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zone199 (Post 2175162)
Iím retired and hope to be moving to the Philippines within the next year.

Unfortunately my Philippine wife and I divorces some years ago. But we are still best of friends, believe it or not. In any case, Iíve heard there is no divorce in the Philippines. Since our divorced was done in America, Iím wondering what my status will be in the Philippines.

Will the government still consider us married?

Thanks
Maxx

This is an interesting subject, and could apply to all foreigners.

Q: were you married in the Philippines or in the USA ?

Q: was your Filipina wife a Philippine citizen at the time of your marriage or an American citizen ?

and you are correct, there is no divorce as such, in the Philippines to people who marry here, only the Anullment procedure, that is very costly 100.000 pesos plus, and takes anywhere from 1 - 3 years, if, and only if, you are lucky enough to come before a Judge here who will sanction it, some will not.

Taswegian 28th October 2013 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zone199 (Post 2175162)
Iím retired and hope to be moving to the Philippines within the next year.

Unfortunately my Philippine wife and I divorces some years ago. But we are still best of friends, believe it or not. In any case, Iíve heard there is no divorce in the Philippines. Since our divorced was done in America, Iím wondering what my status will be in the Philippines.

Will the government still consider us married?

Thanks
Maxx

Hi,
I have only looked briefly into this but this is what I have discovered.
They will recognise all divorces of foreigners but not filipino citizens. So if you are American married to Filipino and legally divorce in America you are allowed to remarry however you ex-wife is still classed as married as she is a Filipino citizen.

pauloz 28th October 2013 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Taswegian (Post 2182586)
Hi,
I have only looked briefly into this but this is what I have discovered.
They will recognise all divorces of foreigners but not filipino citizens. So if you are American married to Filipino and legally divorce in America you are allowed to remarry however you ex-wife is still classed as married as she is a Filipino citizen.

Even if she was legally married in another Country, NOT, the Philippines ?

Is that what you are saying ?

Gary D 28th October 2013 08:36 AM

There seems to be a lot of guessing and mis information going on here.

Wherever you marry doesn't matter. You can not get a divorce in the Philippines. If one partner is a foriegn national they can get a divorce outside of the Philippines and it will be recognised in the Philippines. You must lodge you divorce papers with the Philippine authorities (NSO I think) for it to be rcognised in the Philippines. If it is the foriegn national who instigates the divorce once lodged both parties are free to remarry, this is more important for the filipina. If it is the filipina who instigates the divorce outside the Philippines the divorce on her part will not be recognised by the Philippine authorities and will be considdered still married, but the foriegn spouce can remarry. I know that doesn't make sense and begs the question, would the foriegner be considdered to be commiting adultary whilst in the Philipppines?

pauloz 28th October 2013 09:44 AM

[QUOTE=Gary D;2185746]There seems to be a lot of guessing and mis information going on here.

Wherever you marry doesn't matter. You can not get a divorce in the Philippines. QUOTE]

Yes, that has previously been established that there is no divorce in the Philippines.

In your obvious wisdom, without any ''mis information or guessing'', can you answer this question ?:cool:

If a Filipina, who NEVER has married before, marries OUTSIDE of the Philippines IN ANOTHER COUNTRY OTHER THAN THE PHILIPPINES, and, then gets a divorce in that same OTHER country, and then comes back to the Philippines, is she free to marry in the Philippines, as if it is her first marriage in the Philippines ?

Thanks.:)

Gary D 28th October 2013 10:23 AM

[quote=pauloz;2186602]
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Originally Posted by Gary D (Post 2185746)
There seems to be a lot of guessing and mis information going on here.

Wherever you marry doesn't matter. You can not get a divorce in the Philippines. QUOTE]

Yes, that has previously been established that there is no divorce in the Philippines.

In your obvious wisdom, without any ''mis information or guessing'', can you answer this question ?:cool:

If a Filipina, who NEVER has married before, marries OUTSIDE of the Philippines IN ANOTHER COUNTRY OTHER THAN THE PHILIPPINES, and, then gets a divorce in that same OTHER country, and then comes back to the Philippines, is she free to marry in the Philippines, as if it is her first marriage in the Philippines ?

Thanks.:)

Because the Philippines doesn't recognise divorce it doesn't recognise a citizen getting devorced full stop. It's the foriegn partners divorce that is recognised. That's why the foriegn partner must instigate the divorce not the Filipino. I'm not sure how that would effect a former Filipino who returns to the Philippines. If they don't return it wouldn't matter as the divorce will be fully legal in the country where the proceedings were carried out.

Regarding your question, if the Philippines in not aware I guess it wouldn't matter that in there eyes she will be committing bigotry. But to get married in the first place she would likely need to get paperwork from the Philippines which would be recorded.


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