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Six months on from joining this forum and making my first thread here. I have returned for some additional advice from veteran expats...

I have now been living with my wonderful Filipina girlfriend for just over 4 months in Malaysia. She first came to visit on a 'tourist visa' in February - although I had to jump through a variety of hoops for that to happen (including getting a letter of invitation from the Philippines embassy in KL and also going through an 'interview' with Filipino immigration on the way out, where they interviewed us both separately to ensure our stories coincided and to make sure I was not some dodgy people trafficker).

After my mahal left the country the first time (and got her passport stamped) she did not have any problems leaving the Philippines again - however on her fourth visit to Malaysia (the tourist visa is only good for 30 days so we kept popping back to the Philippines so that it would be renewed) Malaysian immigration informed us that she could not keep coming into the country on the tourist visa.

This prompted me to start a process to get her a 'dependent-visa' which involved getting a letter from the British High Commission stating that she was my common-law wife. After jumping through some other bureaucratic hoops the Malaysian authorities finally gave her a 1 year dependent visa - which has made me ever so happy!

Anyway, I am now thinking about what I need to do to convert my mahal from 'common-law' wife status to real wife status.

As I am also Catholic (albeit not practicing currently) I had thought about doing a small church wedding in the Philippines but have heard that that can be a drawn out process involving marriage counselling 'lessons' from a priest in advance. As I am based in Malaysia - I am not sure I can spare the time for something like that. Is this information correct - or is there a way to circumvent the process (i.e. donation to the church/priest for example?). Can anyone fill me in on the realities of something like that?

If we decide not to go down the 'church' route can anyone advise on the practicalities of an 'official/legal/state' marriage? Is it relatively straightforward to organise and what kind of fees are involved? Does it require me to spend much time in the Phils prior to the wedding?

Thanks for your advice in advance.
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I' am married to a British national and we've undergo tons of things to process. We did a civil wedding and we undergo that marriage counseling. It's just for one day. But the process of obtaining your Certificate of Non Impediment, plus the posting of 21 days in the British Embassy informing that you and your fiancee is getting married is indeed a long wait, specially that you are not staying in the Philippines. After that you need to go to her hometown to submit all the needed documents, once all is done then you need to have the counseling for a day and you need to wait for 11 days because once again it will be posted in the municipality stating that you and her are getting married etc etc. Just after that 11 days you are only allowed to get married and then you now need to find a judge or an attorney or a mayor who can wed you. The cost will be depending. You need to consult.

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Hi,

I' am married to a British national and we've undergo tons of things to process. We did a civil wedding and we undergo that marriage counseling. It's just for one day. But the process of obtaining your Certificate of Non Impediment, plus the posting of 21 days in the British Embassy informing that you and your fiancee is getting married is indeed a long wait, specially that you are not staying in the Philippines. After that you need to go to her hometown to submit all the needed documents, once all is done then you need to have the counseling for a day and you need to wait for 11 days because once again it will be posted in the municipality stating that you and her are getting married etc etc. Just after that 11 days you are only allowed to get married and then you now need to find a judge or an attorney or a mayor who can wed you. The cost will be depending. You need to consult.
Thanks for the info - very useful

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Six months on from joining this forum and making my first thread here. I have returned for some additional advice from veteran expats...

I have now been living with my wonderful Filipina girlfriend for just over 4 months in Malaysia. She first came to visit on a 'tourist visa' in February - although I had to jump through a variety of hoops for that to happen (including getting a letter of invitation from the Philippines embassy in KL and also going through an 'interview' with Filipino immigration on the way out, where they interviewed us both separately to ensure our stories coincided and to make sure I was not some dodgy people trafficker).

After my mahal left the country the first time (and got her passport stamped) she did not have any problems leaving the Philippines again - however on her fourth visit to Malaysia (the tourist visa is only good for 30 days so we kept popping back to the Philippines so that it would be renewed) Malaysian immigration informed us that she could not keep coming into the country on the tourist visa.


This prompted me to start a process to get her a 'dependent-visa' which involved getting a letter from the British High Commission stating that she was my common-law wife. After jumping through some other bureaucratic hoops the Malaysian authorities finally gave her a 1 year dependent visa - which has made me ever so happy!

Anyway, I am now thinking about what I need to do to convert my mahal from 'common-law' wife status to real wife status.

As I am also Catholic (albeit not practicing currently) I had thought about doing a small church wedding in the Philippines but have heard that that can be a drawn out process involving marriage counselling 'lessons' from a priest in advance. As I am based in Malaysia - I am not sure I can spare the time for something like that. Is this information correct - or is there a way to circumvent the process (i.e. donation to the church/priest for example?). Can anyone fill me in on the realities of something like that?

If we decide not to go down the 'church' route can anyone advise on the practicalities of an 'official/legal/state' marriage? Is it relatively straightforward to organise and what kind of fees are involved? Does it require me to spend much time in the Phils prior to the wedding?

Thanks for your advice in advance.
Whichever route you decide to take, you need to be able to commit 3-4 weeks in the Philippines in order to legally marry.
Church or Civil Weddings both require you to obtain a marriage licence. If you are well prepared and a little lucky, you can meet the requirements to apply for one within a week. You then need to wait 10 days before it is granted.

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Also if it hasn't been mentioned you have to take the marriage course,a co-worker as well as some Yank I met in Manilla told me its as costly as it is here in Canada and I believe its several weeks long.With my situation the Catholic Filipino preist refused to marry me and my ex wife,he based this on us only knowing each other for two years and accused her of "trying to get your permanent residence more quickly".Oh,but if we take the marriage course through the Catholic church for $2000 he would marry us.What a scam.

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Hi, If you want to skip the seminars and save time your best option is a civil wedding with the mayor presiding the wedding ceremonies. You're soon to be wife can easily arrange this for less than $100. The right connection helps, asking lawyers with offices in front of city halls is the best way to get this done.


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What about getting married in KL Malaysia, civil ceremony?...Forget about getting married in the Phil???

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Get married in Hong kong, its a British Colony. There is far less paper work involved and you do not need that certificate of impendence thingiemajig.

Then have it registered in the Philippines and of course Malaysia.

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Being out of the UK like me. I UK citizen resident in France married Pilipina in Manila recently.
1. Book appointment British embassy in good time (can be a long wait) where you habitually resident to obtain CNI certificate of no impediment. Doc req: Passport, Birth certificate, copy of future wife passport, two photos of you, evidence that you reside legally in the country. There is a fee to pay in local currency in cash exact amount. Do not be late or else you will have to re book. Your application will be posted 21 days at the embassy, subject to no objection your CNI will be sent for pick up in Manila.
2. You will need to book an appointment at UK embassy Manila, both need to attend. Doc req: You, passport, birth certificate, paid receipt for CNI. Your future wife: Passport, NSO certificate of no previous marriage, Birth certificate, again exact fee in peso. Neither embassy takes credit cards. My experience in UK Manila embassy, extremely polite and helpful.
All information on UK embassy web site in both countries.

3. With the CNI go to local city hall give notice of marriage and apply for marriage licence. Not sure how long it will have to be posted in the area you’re applying in.
4. Doc req: You CNI, passport, birth certificate. Your future wife: Passport, birth certificate, NSO certificate of no marriage, barangay certificate. As a foreigner be ready to be interviewed by the senior registrar on your own, and together. This is to make sure it’s a genuine marriage. Allow two hours for all the process, you will be given a document to check that all is correct, take your time to read and make sure every name is spelt correctly, as this information will be on your marriage certificate.
5. While you’re there waiting ask for the dates and list of group marriages, as this is the quickest way if your short of time. Basically you get married with lots of other people at the same time by the Mayor. We did it that way, not bad also no waiting. Yes you will both have to attend the family planning to get a piece of paper to present at city hall before they issue the licence to marry. The other seminar your partner will have to attend is Guidance and counselling for her to travel abroad. A certificate will be attached in her passport, which will permit her to leave the Philippines once married.
6. Throughout the all process I never had to pay any additional fees, other than those properly advertised and given an official receipt every time. Good luck.

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