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I thought this was addressed on one of our threads but I can't find it, but if you read the links it's a requirement for us Expats and probably won't be one until the end of 2022.


Here's link to Republic Act No. 11055 https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-11055/

Easier to read version of Republic Act No. 11055: https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/rep...1055_2018.html

Section 10, Addresses alternative documents for resident Aliens so I guess that would include our ACR ID cards.


In a media interview last Oct. 1, PSA Assistant Secretary Rosalinda Bautista said all Filipinos, including resident aliens, can choose whether or not to apply for the national ID, explaining that it is voluntary. https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/101898...-authority-psa

Surgio Barbers (2nd district Rep) disagreed with the PSA, saying that RA 11055, which was enacted on Aug. 6, 2018, clearly provides that establishment of the PhilSys or a single identification system for all Filipino citizens and resident aliens.
He said through the Phil ID, one can transact business in all government and private agencies and offices since the national ID is considered proof of identity, (This is not voluntary, but mandatory. I am wondering why those from the Philippine Statistics Authority are saying that this is voluntary, this is not voluntary. This is mandatory wherein all Filipinos will have their so-called PhilSys ID). https://mb.com.ph/2020/10/04/nationa...atory-barbers/


So if this becomes a requirement for Immigration check ins and renewals plus if you're a member of Phil Health then I guess we'll have to get one, the cost is supposed to be free if you qualify.
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I have no problem with a national ID requirement as long as every effort is made to ensure that everyone can get one easily and free of charge.

I would also hope that this would replace other government issued ID's like the driver license, ACR card and SRRV card. That way it would truly be a single source ID for all purposes. Otherwise it is one more piece of plastic to carry around.


I also note that resident aliens can return to the Philippines but SRRV holders cannot. Therefore I do not require one of these cards because by government definition I am not a resident alien or I could leave and return.

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I have no problem with a national ID requirement as long as every effort is made to ensure that everyone can get one easily and free of charge.

I would also hope that this would replace other government issued ID's like the driver license, ACR card and SRRV card. That way it would truly be a single source ID for all purposes. Otherwise it is one more piece of plastic to carry around.


I also note that resident aliens can return to the Philippines but SRRV holders cannot. Therefore I do not require one of these cards because by government definition I am not a resident alien or I could leave and return.
If it were free for DL, ACR, SRRV where would the government agencies derive the funds to pay employees, upkeep of facilities, etc. The new card is supposedly free why would everything else be free?

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GOOD if only one ID wil be needed folr identifying so not needing two or more as it is now (although a separate drivers licence because such can be taken, without take our identity

I would be supriced if it will be free

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If it were free for DL, ACR, SRRV where would the government agencies derive the funds to pay employees, upkeep of facilities, etc. The new card is supposedly free why would everything else be free?

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Card could be free, getting DL endorsement would cost, getting SRRV endorsement would cost, getting ACR endorsement would cost, just like now.

The agencies could actually save money by reducing the number of cards they have to issue.
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The agencies could actually save money by reducing the number of cards they have to issue.
I believe many officials/politicians want to maximice amounts oif cards and permits to get more chances to get pay

E g the numbers of demands of business permits and renevals are around 30 times more in Phils than in Sweden in a 10 years period for a common small business...

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My wife has had the new universal id card for just over a year now since she lost her SSS card. It also covers postal id, voters id plus airport id when travelling domestically.
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I believe many officials/politicians want to maximice amounts oif cards and permits to get more chances to get pay

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They can still make you pay. For example a driver license costs 852 p if I recall correctly, they have to pay staff to take pictures, process the card etc. The charge would stay the same, just the annotations on the universal ID card would change, information in a computer, no expense for physical card.

With the universal ID, all your status is stored in the cloud, readable by a QR code, magnetic strip or NFC chip. When you scan the info, depending on your access permissions, you get some info. Public access would be is it also a DL, address, a better picture than the 20 mmx20mm print on the card etc. A cop would get the DL info in some detail, history of tickets etc, possible criminal history, for foreigners visa status. The BI would only get the immigration information, Medical people would not see visa information but would get the medical history, insurance status.

The public info could include the ability for the person to scan a finger print and you could actually verify that the person holding the card was the person who owned the card, not the younger sister.


The technology exists to do this, I doubt if the Philippines has the will or the vision to implement such a system
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I have no problem with a national ID requirement as long as every effort is made to ensure that everyone can get one easily and free of charge.

I would also hope that this would replace other government issued ID's like the driver license, ACR card and SRRV card. That way it would truly be a single source ID for all purposes. Otherwise it is one more piece of plastic to carry around.


I also note that resident aliens can return to the Philippines but SRRV holders cannot. Therefore I do not require one of these cards because by government definition I am not a resident alien or I could leave and return.

Unfortunately, I do not believe that this new ID system can ever replace all other forms of Government issued ID's unless ALL of the other agencies are inter-connected on some sort of vast country-wide computer network...otherwise...How will anyone know if any particular person is actually licensed to drive a motor vehicle, (Drivers License)...or if they have a valid college degree and passed their proficiency test, (PRC License),...or if they have a retirement Visa, (SRRV)...etc., etc., etc...

Plus many other agencies would go broke and put hundreds of thousands of people out of work because ALL of these other agencies make money from the production and issuance of various ID's...such as the LTO and Driver's Licenses...or the PRA and SRRV's...

A single National form of Government ID can be a good thing for many people but I just don't think it can replace every other form of ID...it's a nice thought...but not practical in many cases. But wouldn't it be nice to jus have ONE centralized ID that serves as your Drivers License and Postal ID and TIN and PRC License and SRRV Visa, etc...
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They can still make you pay. For example a driver license costs 852 p if I recall correctly, they have to pay staff to take pictures, process the card etc. The charge would stay the same, just the annotations on the universal ID card would change, information in a computer, no expense for physical card.

With the universal ID, all your status is stored in the cloud, readable by a QR code, magnetic strip or NFC chip. When you scan the info, depending on your access permissions, you get some info. Public access would be is it also a DL, address, a better picture than the 20 mmx20mm print on the card etc. A cop would get the DL info in some detail, history of tickets etc, possible criminal history, for foreigners visa status. The BI would only get the immigration information, Medical people would not see visa information but would get the medical history, insurance status.

The public info could include the ability for the person to scan a finger print and you could actually verify that the person holding the card was the person who owned the card, not the younger sister.


The technology exists to do this, I doubt if the Philippines has the will or the vision to implement such a system


I actually HOPE this is correct and one single new government ID can replace all of the other forms of ID, (eventually)...that would be awesome!!!

Originally, (from my first post above), I was thinking that this single ID concept would be nearly impossible to accomplish but the information you guys are currently posting suggests that maybe it can and is working...

I am actually in favor of and would like to have only ONE single National government issued ID...I currently have 5 active ID's in the Philippines and it is a hassle to keep up with them all: (1)-Drivers License; (2)-PRA/SRRV; (3)-PWD/Senior Citizen ID; (4)-TIN; and (5)-Postal ID...and expensive to keep up with them all as well PLUS the hassle of renewing each of them periodically!
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