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After reading the information on the PhilSys website, (thanks Hey_Joe for posting), it doesn't appear that the new National ID will provide anything to foreigners except another headache to keep up with! Still need an ACR, or an SRRV, or a Drivers License, TIN, etc!

Sounds like another way for another government agency to access all of our personal private data...they are starting with low income households right now and then the general population later next year...so MAYBE by the time they are ready for foreigners, the system will have already failed and be scraped and we will not need to register...

I think it was bigpearl who said in a previous post...other developed countries could not make a National ID System work...what makes the Philippines think they can succeed where all others have failed?

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After reading the information on the PhilSys website, (thanks Hey_Joe for posting), it doesn't appear that the new National ID will provide anything to foreigners except another headache to keep up with! Still need an ACR, or an SRRV, or a Drivers License, TIN, etc!

Sounds like another way for another government agency to access all of our personal private data...they are starting with low income households right now and then the general population later next year...so MAYBE by the time they are ready for foreigners, the system will have already failed and be scraped and we will not need to register...

I think it was bigpearl who said in a previous post...other developed countries could not make a National ID System work...what makes the Philippines think they can succeed where all others have failed?
Another piece of paper to drag around and fill up the wallet.
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So. From another expat site copied and pasted here without names or the other site.

"Had an official bring me the registration for national ID , I thought the BOI was going to handle national ID for foreigners, but I guess it is the Barangy, that is where they got my name and address"

Feel for the guy but this might be where we are heading. I would have thought there were bigger fish to fry given our current situation worldwide and the unemployed starving people across the world, some governments cannot get priorities in the right direction for their constituents.

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So. From another expat site copied and pasted here without names or the other site.

"Had an official bring me the registration for national ID , I thought the BOI was going to handle national ID for foreigners, but I guess it is the Barangy, that is where they got my name and address"

Feel for the guy but this might be where we are heading. I would have thought there were bigger fish to fry given our current situation worldwide and the unemployed starving people across the world, some governments cannot get priorities in the right direction for their constituents.

OMO.

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From what I've read so far this requirement need is mainly for the poorest of people so they get monetary help because if left to local barangays or municipalities it seems like they make their own judgments on who qualifies like voters only so my only hope is that this National ID card will fix that loophole. This affected my daughter who is very poor but because she wasn't a registered voter she didn't qualify for any Federal funds and also her husband's job as a Rooster trainer didn't' help much but she has two toddlers my grand kids.

So the rush is to get the poor indigent this card first and then all others.
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From what I've read so far this requirement need is mainly for the poorest of people so they get monetary help because if left to local barangays or municipalities it seems like they make their own judgments on who qualifies like voters only so my only hope is that this National ID card will fix that loophole. This affected my daughter who is very poor but because she wasn't a registered voter she didn't qualify for any Federal funds and also her husband's job as a Rooster trainer didn't' help much but she has two toddlers my grand kids.

So the rush is to get the poor indigent this card first and then all others.
Thanks Mark for telling it as it is but I wonder the benefits for the poor people let alone middle and wealthy classes, expats? Honestly? What is the point? I said this before and yet again it is a drum some *anker is beating to justify a job that he/she won't have next year,,,,, seen it all before in many countries. The focus should be on controlling our current pandemic here and not more pay to the nephew or brother pushing such s*it. Put them into the mix, make them earn the taxpayers pesos.

If for 2 visits to Immi I cannot get my stamp/sticker in my passport (Sorry sir still no) when renewing my visa, 18 months on no number plate for one of our bikes (new purchase), better half told to find his voting area and come back then, cut down trees, local
Barangay capitan, Yes that's fine cut them down but in reality should have gone through DENR.

OMO but a national ID is a pipe dream proffered by many countries and didn't work, here?

Sorry for the cynicism but reality bodes ill.

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Thanks Mark for telling it as it is but I wonder the benefits for the poor people let alone middle and wealthy classes, expats? Honestly? What is the point? I said this before and yet again it is a drum some *anker is beating to justify a job that he/she won't have next year,,,,, seen it all before in many countries. The focus should be on controlling our current pandemic here and not more pay to the nephew or brother pushing such s*it. Put them into the mix, make them earn the taxpayers pesos.

If for 2 visits to Immi I cannot get my stamp/sticker in my passport (Sorry sir still no) when renewing my visa, 18 months on no number plate for one of our bikes (new purchase), better half told to find his voting area and come back then, cut down trees, local
Barangay capitan, Yes that's fine cut them down but in reality should have gone through DENR.

OMO but a national ID is a pipe dream proffered by many countries and didn't work, here?

Sorry for the cynicism but reality bodes ill.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.
But it all ready works steve, as I said ealier in the thread my wife has had the national id card for a year or two. It just means she just has one card instead of a whole purse full. It doesn't replace her drivers licence or passport but it does replace the multitude of others cards they love in the Philippines. Don't forget it only effects residents not tourists.
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Not wishing to spoil your evening tipple but just so youre not overly optimistic about getting that remaining number plate anytime soon, though Id let you know we had to wait over 4 years for ours; that might be a record of sorts. On second thoughts, probably not in the Ph.

Maybe they'll let us pay for that national ID up front and give us the card in say 4 or 5-years ..... Happy days!

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Not wishing to spoil your evening tipple but just so you’re not overly optimistic about getting that remaining number plate anytime soon, though I’d let you know we had to wait over 4 years for ours; that might be a record of sorts. On second thoughts, probably not in the Ph.

Maybe they'll let us pay for that national ID up front and give us the card in say 4 or 5-years ..... Happy days!
I had a 1989 Mitsubishi Lancer (sold it earlier this year) and I paid the 500 peso fee years ago, many years ago, for the mandatory license plates and was told that I'd never get a plate a couple years ago the reply from the fixers who registered my car said it was too old.

It appears we get stuck with the fees only citizens get free cards:

Section 6 (c). (3) Fees. - The initial application and issuance as well as the renewal of the PhilID for citizens shall be free of charge. https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/rep...1055_2018.html

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I had a 1989 Mitsubishi Lancer (sold it earlier this year) and I paid the 500 peso fee years ago, many years ago, for the mandatory license plates and was told that I'd never get a plate a couple years ago the reply from the fixers who registered my car said it was too old.

It appears we get stuck with the fees only citizens get free cards:

Section 6 (c). (3) Fees. - The initial application and issuance as well as the renewal of the PhilID for citizens shall be free of charge. https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/rep...1055_2018.html


OF COURSE...who do you think has to pay for this program? Some politician probably suggested..."Hey, lets require resident foreigners to participate in this program, and then we can charge them an outrageously exorbitant fee that will completely finance the entire program for everyone else...FREE"!


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