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You know what, we can posture figures day and night and feel good or bad but realistically I don't want to succumb to a virus made in China (hell most thing these days come from that country) or introduced from some other country,,,,,,,, to China? Simply accept the protocols proffered by this or your countries government and hope they make the right calls, as well as a few of our own and stay alive to see the tourists, the surfers and the economy regrow in the new "normal".

We have seen posted finite information from many many sites and bias news sites, in the end it's up to the individual to make the call how they will individually deal with this pandemic, masks or no masks is a choice as witnessed in many countries, here? Masks and face shields now in most establishments.
For me and only my humble opinion is a government in a third world/developing nation trying its best to get this sh*t under control and regardless the sources of information/figures the Philippines though not perfect is reigning this pandemic in.

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Your numbers are not correct, USA only #3 in tests per million population.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ies-worldwide/

Conclusion correct, more testing is needed to control the spread, not testing is missing the asymptomatic cases and allowing unchecked spread by people who think that they are healthy.
You are right per the stats posted on the site, but Cebu Citizen stated the USA did more testing 7M+ currently. He is correct that more testing was done in the USA, Israel and Uk have populations of about 8-9M and 60M+ respectively, so even though they tested more per million they are still well shy of the 7M+ tested by the USA.

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For me and only my humble opinion is a government in a third world/developing nation trying its best to get this sh*t under control and regardless the sources of information/figures the Philippines though not perfect is reigning this pandemic in.

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Considering the circumstances that they have here, I for one think that the Philippine government has done a remarkable job containing the virus. Either that tor Filipinos have some genetic resistance or the strain locally is not as virulent as elsewhere.

Canada has one third the population but half the number of cases and MORE deaths. Canada death total is 50% more than the Philippines.

Germany with two thirds the population has more cases and more deaths.


I know many people do not fully trust the statistics, and I will admit that there is a lot of problems in generating these numbers, but when you compare the Philippines to some developed countries, their numbers are not that bad and the death toll is generally better.

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Let's look at cases per capita.

Peru. Total cases per million 25,339 Total deaths per million 1,000
USA. " 23,629. 657
India. " 4,989. 77
Philippines. " 3,018. 55
Australia. " 1,064. 35
Sudan. " 310. 19
Yes. Statistics showing amount but not per capita is bad made statustics
as well as showing total cases diagrams instead of new cases per day so trends can be seem.

I thought Sweden would be among the worst in the list type you show there, because of a terrible handled start, but it seem Sweden is still bad concerning new cases, now back up to the worst levels except June, but have become better at avoiding deaths, as 1-2 per day during the last 2 months.
Sweden 9,750 589
(Average deaths per million since start, brought down the last months with very few deaths.)

So both Sweden and USA are badc for being such rich countries.

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I for one think that the Philippine government has done a remarkable job containing the virus. Either that tor Filipinos have some genetic resistance or the strain locally is not as virulent as elsewhere.
The Philippines success, in my opinion, comes down to one thing. Natural barriers because PH is 7,000 +- islands.

Quick action taken to prevent the transmission from one island to another has drastically reduced the spread.
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Considering the circumstances that they have here, I for one think that the Philippine government has done a remarkable job containing the virus. Either that tor Filipinos have some genetic resistance or the strain locally is not as virulent as elsewhere.
Could be similar to why Africa is relatively doing ok. Many theories.

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The Philippines success, in my opinion, comes down to one thing. Natural barriers because PH is 7,000 +- islands.

Quick action taken to prevent the transmission from one island to another has drastically reduced the spread.
I am sure that the islands helped contain movement and spread of the disease. However even in Manila the numbers are not all that bad when compared to some other places.

And when you consider the preponderance of large multi generational families in small places it balances the islands a little.
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Well back to the topic at hand... tourism.
The stats for the first 7 days of Oct have been released for Boracay. So far only 261 tourists have come to the island, and 146 of them are from right here in Aklan (the only province that does not need testing to come. There have been 83 from Manila and 18 from Iloilo.

The beach is emptier, water activities are canceled, bars are closed, and they have secured 3 of the 6 entrances to D'Mall. They say it is to regulate the tourist flow, but there are no tourists to flow. We all think they closed the entrances to move the police elsewhere.

So far the reopening is a total failure. I hate to see that... but it is what it is...

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Well back to the topic at hand... tourism.
The stats for the first 7 days of Oct have been released for Boracay. So far only 261 tourists have come to the island, and 146 of them are from right here in Aklan (the only province that does not need testing to come. There have been 83 from Manila and 18 from Iloilo.

The beach is emptier, water activities are canceled, bars are closed, and they have secured 3 of the 6 entrances to D'Mall. They say it is to regulate the tourist flow, but there are no tourists to flow. We all think they closed the entrances to move the police elsewhere.

So far the reopening is a total failure. I hate to see that... but it is what it is...


I agree...it is indeed a sad situation for Boracay and we are experiencing similar numbers in Bohol now that a few places are open for tourists...seems the places are here and ready but the tourist just aren't showing up or traveling yet!

Here in Bohol it appears to be a total failure as well because the businesses and the local government are spending far more than what their expenses are to test, monitor and allow the tourist in...

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I agree...it is indeed a sad situation for Boracay and we are experiencing similar numbers in Bohol now that a few places are open for tourists...seems the places are here and ready but the tourist just aren't showing up or traveling yet!

Here in Bohol it appears to be a total failure as well because the businesses and the local government are spending far more than what their expenses are to test, monitor and allow the tourist in...
Are swab tests required to go to Bohol?

I love Boracay and visited 8 or 10 times over the last 8 years, from Iloilo. I moved to Boracay (temporarily) a couple months ago. As a tourist, I would not visit right now. Getting the swab test is too much trouble and too much expense for a week long vacation. With all the hotel cancellations... it seems I am not the only one that feels that way. Travel is a questionable activity right now to begin with. Add to that the swab test and it is just not worth the bother.

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