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Old 5th October 2020, 02:39 AM
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2020 Oct 02
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I am glad to see the Philippines do this. If the USA did this we wouldn't have 12 million illegals here in this country and most are working illegal.

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While will never know the real or full story it sounds like bad grapes to me.

"According to lawyer Arvin Santos, BI legal division chief, Satar and Goodacre are employed as senior management executives of two Cebu City-based companies engaged in the real estate and construction business.
Santos said the activities of the two Australians were reported to the BI by Filipino workers employed in the said companies who opposed their management."

They were employed by by a Filipino company, perhaps advised by that company that paperwork with immi was in order and at some point things went south but as said who knows.

"The complainants also reportedly alleged that Satar and Goodacre continued to ignore the repeated advice of the company’s Filipino executives for them to apply for the appropriate work permits and visas as it is required under the country’s Philippine labor and immigration laws.
Investigation revealed that despite the duo’s failure to apply for work permits and visa, they continued to exercise control and supervision over the companies’ business operations."

All sounds very suspect to me.

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While will never know the real or full story it sounds like bad grapes to me.
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They were employed by by a Filipino company, perhaps advised by that company that paperwork with immi was in order and at some point things went south but as said who knows.
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All sounds very suspect to me.
Yes. Because why would a Filipino company employ them without work permit, knowing they hadn't any..?

But no big difference because they aren't let in as foreigners because of covid anyway

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We talked some about work permits in some other topic a while ago.
Working permits are demanded even for VOLONTARY work for known aid organisations!
My interpretion concerning work permits is it's needed for foreign husbands even to assist Filipna wife in her business.
So expats LOCK UP to not risk to get deported because of missing work permit.

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Yes that part sucks.

To keep my professional license I need points in three categories. When working it was easy, work, formal training and informal self study covered it. Now without working I need another category like volunteering. In Canada I had claimed in this category for being a judge at a high school science fair. I had thought I could do that, help students with English on papers at a university level, give a presentation of some sort but all that could get me deported.

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Work permits are not straight forward and expensive, it's not unknown for filipino companies to take the risk and tell a foreigner everything is in order when it's not. It's the foreigner that takes tbe fall, there's no comeback on the company. Getting a travel agent to source you visa updates is another area that can go sadly wrong. Fake visas have been issued with no penalty to the travel agent, just the foreigner being deported.
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Yes that part sucks.
To keep my professional license I need points in three categories. When working it was easy, work, formal training and informal self study covered it. Now without working I need another category like volunteering. In Canada I had claimed in this category for being a judge at a high school science fair. I had thought I could do that, help students with English on papers at a university level, give a presentation of some sort but all that could get me deported.
Isn't English your first language? (Or are you FrenchCanadian?)
If so you have good chance to get WORK permit approved as English teacher/tutor. At least it was that earlier.
If you just need it for licencing, you can search work permit for tutoring e g South Koreans through internet. I don't know how easy/hard that is to get approved, but before covid many foreigners got work teaching English for schools or call centers. The later wasn't much English teaching, it was teaching English/American/Australian ACCENT to Filipinos, who can English allready.

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Isn't English your first language? (Or are you FrenchCanadian?)
If so you have good chance to get WORK permit approved as English teacher/tutor. At least it was that earlier.
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I do not want to work on a regular basis and definitely do not want to work teaching English.

I was thinking about volunteering for an afternoon to be a science fair judge ( if they have them here) or making a presentation to a professional gathering. All I need is a few hours to check the third box as I can get enough total hours by taking a formal on line course of some sort ( lots of free and interesting ones out there) and doing some self study. My normal reading into professional issues will qualify.

I know that the chance of being deported or "working" by judging a science fair is pretty small but not a chance I am willing to take.

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I know that the chance of being deported or "working" by judging a science fair is pretty small but not a chance I am willing to take.
It's enough to get problemby some jelous report you.
But I suppouse some less jelousy at judging a science fair than jugding a beauty contest, although I guess more risk to get attacked if judging "wrong" at a beauty contest

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It's enough to get problemby some jelous report you.
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Like if the mayor's kid loses out to the kid of the guy who opposed him last election?
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