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Old 26th August 2020, 09:56 AM
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Doing anything that could be considered depriving a filipino of and income can be considered illegal, even doing your own diy which a local could be paid to do.
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I do remember a few Expats being deported for owning and running a business but living here on a tourist Visa, I've read many stories and also it's been in the news. Here's an example https://globalnation.inquirer.net/16...tte-mangrobang

Those that set up monetized YouTube Channels also end up with issues especially if they try to run a charity such as feeding kids or homeless.

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Doing anything that could be considered depriving a filipino of and income can be considered illegal, even doing your own diy which a local could be paid to do.

Some do take it kind of seriously. I do prefer to do my own installation and repairs on my house & property, same as far as vehicle maintenance & repair. I have been questioned a 2 different hardware stores and also at the local auto parts store when I was installing my pressure water system, doing some electrical wiring, changing oil in my van, even when I bought & installed a clutch in my van, I was questioned as to why I didn't pay a pinoy to do that stuff. They almost acted as if they did not want to sell the items if I was the one going to use them. Finally kind of got disgusted with them and said that I preferred to do it so it would be done right the first time. I now go in and get what I want with no questions, I do get some stares from the local 'craftsmen' & 'mechanics'.

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Old 27th August 2020, 03:01 AM
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Some do take it kind of seriously. I do prefer to do my own installation and repairs on my house & property, same as far as vehicle maintenance & repair. I have been questioned a 2 different hardware stores and also at the local auto parts store when I was installing my pressure water system, doing some electrical wiring, changing oil in my van, even when I bought & installed a clutch in my van, I was questioned as to why I didn't pay a pinoy to do that stuff. They almost acted as if they did not want to sell the items if I was the one going to use them. Finally kind of got disgusted with them and said that I preferred to do it so it would be done right the first time. I now go in and get what I want with no questions, I do get some stares from the local 'craftsmen' & 'mechanics'.

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Just tell them that you are hiring a guy to do the work but that you had agreed to buy the parts required. If necessary take along a local friend who will grin and nod his head at the approprate times. All too often local busy bodies like to stick their noses into people's business, especially if they can think of some way to monetize it for themselves or a family member.

If taken to an extreme, cooking your own food, cleaning your own house, driving your own car, etc could be considered work because you can hire all this done, as far as doing things for your self I really do not see why that would be considered work in violation of a visa.

However for the people actually doing serious work, for the public for payment., I do believe that they should be deported after being fined and in serious cases doing some time as a guest in the Iron Bar Hotel. I include in this people teaching either on line or in person, making YouTube videos for payment, or even working for no cash in a family business.

Other than on a tourist visa, a work permit is as far as I have been told pretty easy to get, especially if you are doing something that a local generally would not do, like teach English or open a business, especially if that business will employ locals.
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It's too hard here and much simpler to derive an income from an environment one is familiar with and save the angst.
A very typical example and sorry for going off topic. 18 months ago we purchased a new Mio as a run around, no plates and you have to wait sir, (got new plates in under 2 weeks for a new car back in August 2019)
Now according to RA 11235 we can be fined for not having a number plate on the scooter that we already paid for and now appears we have to apply and pay again according to the locals as they are available now, perhaps they are wrong and my quick glance at this new law/protocol missed the mark?

Doing business here and I/we have looked at many, is a waste of time as you can invest securely offshore/own country where you know the 10 pitfalls and not the 500 that are thrown at you here. Sadly I am very Cynical with any ventures open here for the unwary that doesn't ask the right questions and cries later.,,,,,,, Same with property etc.
I agree with Gary, "Dual citizenship" many Myself included have lots to learn.

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Doing business here and I/we have looked at many, is a waste of time as you can invest securely offshore/own country where you know the 10 pitfalls and not the 500 that are thrown at you here. Sadly I am very Cynical with any ventures open here for the unwary that doesn't ask the right questions and cries later.,,,,,,, Same with property etc.
I agree with Gary, "Dual citizenship" many Myself included have lots to learn.

Cheers, Steve.
I agree 100%. For most small businesses, the income is piddling and not worth all the potential hassles. My investments back home go up and down in a day more than a small business here would earn in a month, but they don't worry me because they are long term.

I see this "architect" and wonder "why, why, why??". Successful architects don't usually leave a career to run a food stand.

However, some people just want to work and stay busy. I know a very wealthy guy who doesn't need to work another minute in his life, but he just bought a resort. Seems to me it will just generate big headaches, but he is very much a "glass half full" type of guy so I hope it makes him happy and busy.
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I wonder the laws for this guy and perhaps myself for volunteering time to our better half endeavours?.
NOT allowed without work permit - and I doubt foreigners would get any for such work.

NO DIFFERENCE if the foreigner get pay or not. It isn't even allowed without work permit to work for FREE even in an aid organisation!

As I understand the law foreigners aren't even allowed to be involved in a foodcart business at all. Or do I missinterpret ?
"RETAIL TRADE ENTERPRISES with paid-up capital of not less than US$ 2,500,000* *(Sec. 5/R.A. 8762) "
8000 pesos is far from that

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A "funny" thing for foreigners (with work permit and can be max 40 percent owner in education business)
Foreigners aren't allowed to teach*
but are allowed to "instruct" teachers how

(*Except when the Philippines is short of a type of teachers as e g foreigners with English as first language.)
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It's being tightened up, there are only 15 categories of work tgat can be done by foreigners.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/111281...job-categories

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It's being tightened up, there are only 15 categories of work tgat can be done by foreigners.
(I had to remove link to be able to post, because I'm new.)
But that's for TEMPORARY.
"foreigners who are in the Philippines on tourist visas to work here for six months."

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Those that set up monetized YouTube Channels also end up with issues especially if they try to run a charity such as feeding kids or homeless.
Yeah, ol Ned down in Dumaguete ran into that problem with the Spaghetti feed and people contributing to it as I recall. Makes no sense , as just trying to help the poor, especially the kids. Perhaps now his Asawa can take the reigns for that once they have their kiddo soon.

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