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Old 22nd August 2020, 05:43 AM
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Covid doesn't seem to be slowing down in our area of Laguna and our Municipality unfortunately and we have 3 more that tested positive, two were government employees and the other an older female citizen but all women.
Same here in Bohol Mark...virtually NO cases here for months and then it all started in late April with a few LSI's arriving with the virus AFTER they were supposedly tested negative before being allowed to come here and now it seems to be exploding in places with two specific municipalities being the center of community transmissions...

And it all comes down to no one here acts like it is a serious issue...

No one can go out without a Quarantine Pass but people are out all the time with no pass and the security guards just let them in to Malls and restaurants anyway...

Young people under 18 years old are NOT allowed out but you see children running around everywhere at all hours of the day and night...

Seniors over 65 years old are not allowed out but you see them going out to church and the stores and shops as well...

Curfew is from 9pm until 5am but I see people out on the streets ALL the time...

No masks, no face shields, no social distancing...

I told all my friends, I was glad to be here in Bohol when this pandemic hit but I also told them "WHEN" the virus does come here, it will explode!!! And it did and it is exploding!

It's just all very sad...
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Old 22nd August 2020, 07:03 AM
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Here in the U.S. the whole thing is so politicized so who is telling the truth? I follow what the scientists say hoping they are, seems the best odds.
If you look at other countries you will see a pattern.

Those despite their political leanings and leadership that followed the scientific advice, wear masks, practice social distancing, wash hands often, test lots, etc are doing well. Examples, New Zealand, Australia, Canada after a bad start, lots of places in Europe, Italy again after a bad start.

Those that again despite their political leanings and leadership that failed to follow the scientific advice, are doing badly. The UK, Italy initially, Brazil, the USA to list a few examples.

The Democrats want the US to be in the first group, the GOP are firmly in the second group.

Make your own decisions accordingly.
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Covid doesn't seem to be slowing down in our area of Laguna and our Municipality unfortunately and we have 3 more that tested positive, two were government employees and the other an older female citizen but all women.
Yeah, here in Iloilo we were down to 1 case, only 19 total cases, and 1 death. Then... Manila & Cebu started sending LSIs. They are full. Last I saw (19AUG) there were over 540 cases in the city and 14 deaths. We had a huge spike and now a couple hospitals have said they are not accepting any new patients - for anything.
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tukaram----My point is with 40,000 dead last year from the flu and not one single news about it. That is not a small # to die. That is even with vaccines in place. So, I don't think the 175,000 you mention is out of line with no vaccines and the idiot people that won't obey the safety guidelines. If the people had obeyed the mask and distance rule that # would have been down very low even with no vaccines to take. That is my point.

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tukaram----My point is with 40,000 dead last year from the flu and not one single news about it. That is not a small # to die. That is even with vaccines in place. So, I don't think the 175,000 you mention is out of line with no vaccines and the idiot people that won't obey the safety guidelines. If the people had obeyed the mask and distance rule that # would have been down very low even with no vaccines to take. That is my point.

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One assumes the 40000 didn't vaccinate.

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One assumes the 40000 didn't vaccinate.
Or caught a strain the flu vaccine doesn't cover. Imagine the covid vaccine will be the same.

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hey cvgtpc1

you are right. There are different strains of the flu also. They try to make a general vaccine that will cover most flu strains. Like Gary said I am sure a lot of them didn't get the vaccine shot. I get one every year at the VA. We will have the same problem with covid 19 with different strains of it. I think it will be trial and error to get a vaccine that covers a lot of different strains of the virus.

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Back to media hype, yes there is that and it depends on what you watch, political bias or misreporting and what one filters to take onboard but it's obvious there is a world wide problem and it's been with us for over 6 months and really no matter what any government sprouts via media from any country the message is pretty clear, well for me anyway. Stay home,,,,,,, boring, when out mask, alcohol hand sanitiser and steer clear of other bodies, I think I still have 10 or 20 years to live and I don't want to jeopardise those last few years for religious, civil rights or bullet proof beliefs.
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But one thing is clear in countries that generally followed the scientific and medical community',s guidelines, maintained social distancing, had many people stay at home, wear masks, wash and sanitize often etc all did better than the ones that did not do these simple and basic precautions.
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tukaram----My point is with 40,000 dead last year from the flu and not one single news about it. That is not a small # to die. That is even with vaccines in place. So, I don't think the 175,000 you mention is out of line with no vaccines and the idiot people that won't obey the safety guidelines. If the people had obeyed the mask and distance rule that # would have been down very low even with no vaccines to take. That is my point.

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That is a good point. The media was trying to get people to follow the rules, while bunker-boy was calling it a hoax. It was idiot twitter hype, not media hype that got those people killed.

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