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Old 26th May 2020, 01:04 AM
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

What I can't understand/extremely perplexing is the apparent epicentre appears to have controlled this outbreak well before the rest of the world saw/experienced the fall out. False reporting? Nth Korea rings a bell. How did they achieve this given 5 million visitors to that province when all this started? I am sure 2 or 3, perhaps 4 million went back home in that country and zilch.
What am I missing?

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I don't trust many of the stats on this virus.

Different places classify cases differently some require a positive test others based on clinical symptoms. For deaths some places are very strict on only classifying a hospital death who had tested positive for the virus others are counting home deaths that they cannot explain otherwise.

Some countries are doing widespread tests on request others even symptomatic people are having difficulty getting tested.


And that is on countries that want to report accurately, many countries are trying to minimize the extent of the virus in their populations. (Brazil and USA, I talking to you here)

It will make the jobs of the experts much more difficult to sort out what works and what doesn't work and how to control the spread of the virus.

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Agree but that doesn't change what my OP said. Example: Being an Aussie I watch closely what is happening in my home country as others do for their countries.
Testing regime in Oz, over 50K per million/ Population 25M
Deaths per million, 4
Cases per million, 280

The other country/place, tests. Not posted?/ Population 1.4B
Deaths per million, 3
Cases per million, 58

Something is seriously wrong with reporting, accountability and transparency.

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Old 26th May 2020, 11:12 PM
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I heard from my brother in the UK that many deaths are being put down the covid to save time, covid deaths don't require an autopsy.

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So are these deaths tested/confirmed or laziness? I would have thought that the UK would be up front and doing the right thing.

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So are these deaths tested/confirmed or laziness? I would have thought that the UK would be up front and doing the right thing.

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Not tested, just saving time and money.

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Sorry to hear that Gary, as another member said these type of things skew the numbers and potential remedial measures.

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Sorry to hear that Gary, as another member said these type of things skew the numbers and potential remedial measures.

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The local news channels have started looking at the total deaths compared to the normal levels of deaths for any given time which shows a far different story so underreporting doesn't work. It will be interesting to see the total for the year and if it's much different from normal. We have had many deaths in our carehomes which on the face of it looking terrible, but are the peaks just people that would have died during the year just happened all at once.

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Agree but that doesn't change what my OP said. Example: Being an Aussie I watch closely what is happening in my home country as others do for their countries.
Testing regime in Oz, over 50K per million/ Population 25M
Deaths per million, 4
Cases per million, 280

The other country/place, tests. Not posted?/ Population 1.4B
Deaths per million, 3
Cases per million, 58

Something is seriously wrong with reporting, accountability and transparency.

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Cheers, Steve.
I do not that method is not really a good measurement. If China was able to keep it in one region - then it would make more sense to compare the numbers of that region. I may be in the hundreds of millions of people, not the full 1.4 billion. If their cases were contained in a smaller area, then the number per million would be a lot higher. Might be more in line with other countries.

Of course I do not know how well they contained it.

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