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Old 2nd May 2020, 11:38 PM
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Not sure I understand why you need the water heated? Are you saying the soap does not break down without heat, maybe try other detergents before investing in a machine that can heat water.

I have no issues with washing clothes in cold water. My only issue is drying close on a line. Seems to stretch out all my shirts. I thought about a dryer but at 60,000 pesos and up I thought about all the new clothes I could buy.
Agree on the cold water but not necessarily the price of a dryer. We moved into a condo in Manila 8 years ago, purchased American Maid front load with combo dryer from A Bensons from memory and worked fine. Price for the combo on special at the time was PHP 30K. A year later we gave the washer, dryer, the rest of our condo electrical and furnishings to the outlaws, even paid a moving company to get it there,,,,, first time I met the outlaws.
The washing machine lasted 6 years but large family and probably ran 2 to 4 times a day with all the next door relatives. The dryer never got used and mum asked us to take it away when we moved back, the dryer has been here a year now and is a great shelf to put the washing basket on,,,,,,,,,, never used it, hang the washing out.
In the condo the dryer was used about 30% of the time, all other times 2 clothes racks on the balcony, sheets were a beach.

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I have had several front load machines (Hoover), one in our house and 2 in our rental apartments 30 years ago, 4 odd years operation and the bearings holding the drum in place died on all. Back to top load from then on. I am sure though technology and engineering has improved big time so worth looking at. Our biggest gripe with a front load was once it started nothing else could be added, again perhaps that has changed. Front loaders are great space savers and water efficient.


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The barings went on my first front loader 40 years ago which were replaced fairly easily but wasn't ever the same, We also had a few years ago a direct drive Dyson but the motor failed and was beyond economic repair. Our current UK Samsung you can stop to add washing very early in the cycle. Our Samsung washer dryer here in the Philippines is an Addwash which has a smaller door within the main door to add items without opening the main door. Cost 40,000 pesos from SM. Regarding loads, the max load varies depending on the wash. Cotton is max 7.5kg but wool is only 2kg. Drying is also a reduced load, I guess because a washer has a smaller drum than a bespoke dryer.

One thing I will add is that water pressure is critical in the Philippines for an automatic washing machine. When we first got ours I hadn't finished installing our booster pump and it was touch and go with just the gravity feed supply.
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Agree on the cold water but not necessarily the price of a dryer. We moved into a condo in Manila 8 years ago, purchased American Maid front load with combo dryer from A Bensons from memory and worked fine. Price for the combo on special at the time was PHP 30K. A year later we gave the washer, dryer, the rest of our condo electrical and furnishings to the outlaws, even paid a moving company to get it there,,,,, first time I met the outlaws.
The washing machine lasted 6 years but large family and probably ran 2 to 4 times a day with all the next door relatives. The dryer never got used and mum asked us to take it away when we moved back, the dryer has been here a year now and is a great shelf to put the washing basket on,,,,,,,,,, never used it, hang the washing out.
In the condo the dryer was used about 30% of the time, all other times 2 clothes racks on the balcony, sheets were a beach.

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I did run across a washer/dryer combo front loader and about the same price you listed, do you remember the brand name Steve? the Outlaws LOL.

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We only expect to use the dryer function during the rainy season. We bought the washer dryer because we don't expect to use the dryer only occasionally. Saves the cost of an extra dryer and more importantly the space.

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Since childhood I've had issues with the detergents on my skin I get itchy and the well water is a mineral type or hard water so without heat to break it down,it doesn't break down enough and also wastes the detergent, the clothes don't smell so nice either so my wife has to drain them 3 times it's getting old doing this manually, we have the Sharp manual washer and spinner, the spin side though gets the water out and it's nearly dry, I hear you on the damage to the clothes they don't last long.

You mentioned the dryer, I did come across a dryer for 20,000 pesos a branded one, forgot the name, I was searching I think on Abensons appliances and notices they were affordable. I'm looking at both front loaders and top loaders and also trying to find information on mechanical issues, so far both the front load and top load both seem to have their own mechanical problems.

I had a real nice Whirlpool set in the US for a couple decades and for sure it still needed repair after only 4 years.
Honestly Mark the only way to soften water is with a water softening system, expensive but what I am looking into ATM. Heating/boiling hard water. Read this:

https://www.quora.com/Does-heating-h...-it-soft-water

Detergents verses hard water and soft water is one to looking as well, soft water less soap. Helps dermatological problems.

Only my observations. We had water tests taken from our well about 10 weeks ago, mineral content, salts (we are on the beach) Ecoli and Fecal Coliform, some others but yet again old timers. To date we have not received the results as the laboratory is not operating due to Covid-19, sad as I do these tests in Oz all the time and have the results back in under 2 days. PHP 4K later? These samples were relinquished 10 days before the lock down. Are the tests comprised, will they simply sprout numbers?

All in all we have hard water, I don't mind it, lots of soap to shower but the scale build up in the showers, toilets, basins, kitchen sink and laundry though is a beach Yes perhaps a hundred plus K but on our priority list. 25 years of rain water (soft) has also made me soft.

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I did run across a washer/dryer combo front loader and about the same price you listed, do you remember the brand name Steve? the Outlaws LOL.
Yes Mark and I do apologise they were not American Maid (I checked the Dryer) but American Home ATD-610, the dryer.
Only an observation but a twin tub? If I did that to Ben he would slap me severely and then some.

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Yes Mark and I do apologise they were not American Maid (I checked the Dryer) but American Home ATD-610, the dryer.
Only an observation but a twin tub? If I did that to Ben he would slap me severely and then some.

Cheers, Steve.
Not a twin tub, there are a few washer/dryer combinations but the dryer all in one... Ha haaa, Oh man that's what we have now that dreaded twin tub, I went back to the twin tub because of the cost and repairs of our old washing machine but enough is enough it's been 5 years so I'm ready for a fully automatic washer again.
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Update on the washing machine, we tried to purchase an Electrolux 10 kilo inverter top loader and the appliance store said they'd give us the same discount if they could verify online and they did and then it came down to paying and it was going to be the full price because I was using my credit card, so I grabbed my ID, credit card and this form they had me fill out and walked out no use talking.

We tried a major chained appliance and came away with an LG 9 kilo top loader, inverter and so far it's really nice and my wife is happy, I added a two year warranty just in case. What a change from the manual washing machines.
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Update on the washing machine, we tried to purchase an Electrolux 10 kilo inverter top loader and the appliance store said they'd give us the same discount if they could verify online and they did and then it came down to paying and it was going to be the full price because I was using my credit card, so I grabbed my ID, credit card and this form they had me fill out and walked out no use talking.

We tried a major chained appliance and came away with an LG 9 kilo top loader, inverter and so far it's really nice and my wife is happy, I added a two year warranty just in case. What a change from the manual washing machines.
Congrats on the LG. Bought an LG front loader washer dryer combo in January and it's great. Does everything I need and very efficient; wife is happy because I do all the laundry lol; well its usually only 2 buttons to press. John
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