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Hey_Joe 29th April 2020 11:15 AM

Foreigners who flout quarantine rules face arrest, deportation
 
INQUIRER.net / 10:33 AM April 28, 2020

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/126581...st-deportation

also

Foreigners not exempted from Philippine laws, BI says after Dasma incident

Published April 28, 2020 12:00pm

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news...ncident/story/

Tukaram 29th April 2020 01:39 PM

That whole situation was stupid, and avoidable. The cops saw a lady (Spanish foreigner's maid) watering plants, while standing in the street, with no mask. The street is not part of her bosses property. The cops told her to go inside and get a mask. She was complying.

Problem solved. Actually, there was no problem... yet.

Then an idiot comes out of the house and starts berating the cops. Not a wise move, in any country.

greenstreak1946 29th April 2020 04:03 PM

hey Turaram-----I hope they don't allow him to stay in the Philippines. the guy was using his authority towards the officer. I hope the courts don't just fine him and allow this foreigner to get by while millions of locals are abiding by the order. It would be wrong for the government to allow him to stay.

When I lived there I didn't agree with everything but I am living in their country so I kept my mouth shut 99% of the time.

art

bigpearl 29th April 2020 10:27 PM

A question to the brains trust with regards to face masks. I read conflicting information and witness the flouting of the face mask laws with people walking up and down the beach, I see them every day and none wear masks, I too am guilty of this when I go for a swim.
Do I/we need to wear a mask within our titled property boundary while working in the garden and further to this the 800 odd M2 tax declared lot that goes to the high tide mark? I have not worn a face mask at all as I have been property bound since the ECQ was implemented on the 15th of March.

Cheers, Steve.

Hey_Joe 30th April 2020 12:04 AM

Has anyone else heard this claim from other Expats in the PI? They can't deport me, i have a 13A, i'm married to a Filipina, I'm a permanant resident, blah blah blah. This article & video is clairification.


Posted at Apr 29 2020 09:15 AM
(The visa or any relationship here in the Philippines -- even if let's say he's a permanent resident -- it's not a free pass for people, foreign nationals to do whatever they want here in the Philippines.

Even if he has a Filipina wife or he's a resident here, whatever his status is, he may still be subjected to deportation proceedings.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/...gration-bureau

fmartin_gila 30th April 2020 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey_Joe (Post 15090942)
Has anyone else heard this claim from other Expats in the PI? They can't deport me, i have a 13A, i'm married to a Filipina, I'm a permanant resident, blah blah blah. This article & video is clairification.


Posted at Apr 29 2020 09:15 AM
(The visa or any relationship here in the Philippines -- even if let's say he's a permanent resident -- it's not a free pass for people, foreign nationals to do whatever they want here in the Philippines.

Even if he has a Filipina wife or he's a resident here, whatever his status is, he may still be subjected to deportation proceedings.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/...gration-bureau

That is how I understand it. Even though I am 13A Permanent, I am still a "guest" here so I will continue to 'fly under the radar' as much as possible. Near as I can determine, the individual in this instance acted as a complete fool. I am sure that this will cost him quite a bit of money along with getting himself deported and probably blacklisted against any future visit.

Fred

greenstreak1946 30th April 2020 02:08 AM

Diokno said police officers, members of the Army and local government officials cannot enter a private citizen’s house without a search warrant from a magistrate.

So, this means I can rob a bank or kill someone and run into my house and they are not allowed to come in my house to get me? they have to wait for a search warrant!!!! I wonder how this will hold up in Philippine court? This guy and his maid was disobeying ordinances put in place to slow the virus.

art

Tukaram 30th April 2020 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigpearl (Post 15090916)
A question to the brains trust with regards to face masks. I read conflicting information and witness the flouting of the face mask laws with people walking up and down the beach, I see them every day and none wear masks, I too am guilty of this when I go for a swim.
Do I/we need to wear a mask within our titled property boundary while working in the garden and further to this the 800 odd M2 tax declared lot that goes to the high tide mark? I have not worn a face mask at all as I have been property bound since the ECQ was implemented on the 15th of March.

Cheers, Steve.

Not positive of the rule, since the rules seem to be implemented differently in each town...
but in my own yard I do not wear a mask. However, if a cop walked up and told me to put on a mask... I would smile, say 'yes sir', and go get my mask. Only makes sense to me ha ha

As for the beach, I wish we could go. Our beach is closed. I have a cousin who lives directly on the beach (high tide now hits his back wall), and even they are not allowed to swim. I see no reason why, but the beach is closed.

Hey_Joe 30th April 2020 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenstreak1946 (Post 15090974)
Diokno said police officers, members of the Army and local government officials cannot enter a private citizenís house without a search warrant from a magistrate.

So, this means I can rob a bank or kill someone and run into my house and they are not allowed to come in my house to get me? they have to wait for a search warrant!!!! I wonder how this will hold up in Philippine court? This guy and his maid was disobeying ordinances put in place to slow the virus.

art

Some of The News articles mention "Hot Pursuit"

This article mentions "Hot Pursuit Doctrine"
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...antless-arrest

The Law - Read Rule 13 Section 5
https://lawphil.net/courts/rules/rc_...-127_crim.html

Manitoba 2nd May 2020 01:53 AM

I am reminded of the Dunesbery cartoon. Way back in the 70's Zoonker was arrested for posesion of one pot seed.

The series ended with him saying something like right or wrong, good or bad it is illegal.

I looked for a reference to the strip but could not find it.

I don't think masks do much to protect me. They do a little to protect others me from if I was infected. However they are rhe rules. I wear one when I am off the propery and near others. I can go for a long walk and not be near ayone but as soon as Iget near the town I put it on.


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