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Well, I am over 50 with a pension so the $10,000 plus $1400 application fee and $360 a year was correct that I stated in my post. I know some areas don't process long applications. Where I was at they had full service there. I just can't see putting $10,000 in an account and it will be there as long as I am in the system. I am not interested in buying a condo there.

As long as I am in an area that processes all the visas then I will just do that since they have extended the leaving time to 3 years and then come back and start over again.

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That is around 8 to 10 years of tourist fees.
8 to 10 years in the RP is not considered a tourist, so you'll eventually need a resident visa anyway.

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8 to 10 years in the RP is not considered a tourist, so you'll eventually need a resident visa anyway.
Yep, while I agree with you and as said will eventually go down the SRRV path myself, in the interim will avail the tourist visa as it's available, legal and at this stage suits our needs. I am sure plenty of other expats are and have been doing the 3 year visa run for more than 10 years and that's their choice and perfectly legal.
Where are you up to now with your research Gorn? I know it can be a mine field but eventually we sort out which way we go to suit our own needs.

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I am sure plenty of other expats are and have been doing the 3 year visa run for more than 10 years and that's their choice and perfectly legal.
What's legal depends on whichever immigration agent you get and what kind of day they're having, but they are definitely cracking down on the "permanent tourists" you describe. If they are working, they are breaking the law, and if they are not working, they are considered retired. You can read about it here: https://www.silent-gardens.com/blog/...f-regulations/ and here - https://www.silent-gardens.com/blog/...tting-tighter/

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Where are you up to now with your research Gorn?
Given the choice, 13a over SRRV. Right now I'm more interested in the path to citizenship, I believe you need to be a permanent resident for 10 years (or 5 if married) first, and not just a tourist, but information is limited, any help Steve?

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What's legal depends on whichever immigration agent you get and what kind of day they're having, but they are definitely cracking down on the "permanent tourists" you describe. If they are working, they are breaking the law, and if they are not working, they are considered retired. You can read about it here: https://www.silent-gardens.com/blog/...f-regulations/ and here - https://www.silent-gardens.com/blog/...tting-tighter/



Given the choice, 13a over SRRV. Right now I'm more interested in the path to citizenship, I believe you need to be a permanent resident for 10 years (or 5 if married) first, and not just a tourist, but information is limited, any help Steve?
Thanks for the reply Gorn, yes the links you supply are relevant and appreciated the read. While none here have or dare mention working on a tourist visa as it's illegal I am sure it happens and at their own risk, no different to many countries.
I cannot avail the 13a nor Balakbayan privilege as we are a gay couple and unfortunately not yet recognised as such within the Philippines but as mentioned in other dialogue has other perks.
OMO. Citizenship for me in PH. I have to reside for 10 years, speak Tagalog or our local dialect "Ilicano" fluently prior to going through all the hoops, as well as renouncing my Australian citizenship. Not going to happen.

As for ""believe you need to be a permanent resident for 10 years (or 5 if married) first, and not just a tourist, but information is limited, any help Steve?""
Not that this will be my path though perhaps yours I would ask why?
You raise a good question. Do you need to be a permanent resident? Either SRRV, SIRV, Diplomat or 13a before you apply or 10 years on a tourist visa to become a Filipino national? No Idea Gorn as it was something I discounted 7 or 8 years ago. I researched as you and others have on expat and government sites for years and chose the path that suits our needs and not others.
I think we and many others are very lucky to retire to PH given their generous immigration opportunities that won't be found in other countries, I said this before and will again; PH. was never a retirement destination for me but that's where I met the love of my life 8 years ago while working there and retiring here puts us closer to family and friends. Visas are easy. Living in the Philippines certainly has its moments. Gods speed with your choices Gorn, we wish you all the best with your chosen path.

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Not that this will be my path though perhaps yours I would ask why?
I think the better question is why not. As a general rule, citizens have more rights than non-citizens, real estate purchasing, business, travel, etc. The only downside is income taxes.

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as well as renouncing my Australian citizenship.
Philippines and AU both allow dual-citizens, so you'd have both.

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What it all boils down to is that each of us has to do some research and then do what fits our individual circumstances. I first started doing the tourist thing, then went the Balikbayan route, then switched to the 13A status.

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That's the part that requires a source.
https://pra.gov.ph/assets/citizen-ch...ng_of_Visa.pdf

The detailed procedures for canceling the SRRV explicitly include release of the hold on the deposit, it then becomes a regular term deposit or the encumbrance on the title of your condo is lifted.

Why did you ever think otherwise?

Deposit is generally refundable.

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The problem I see with just going the "tourist" route is that it does put you at the mercy of an immigration agent each and every time that you do the visa run.

You are then also dependent on future governments crack down of tourist visa abusers.

I've a few friends in Thailand that thought they had it made, just doing regular border runs to Malaysia, Myanmar, Loas or Cambodia, until the Thai govt cracked down and made additional rules to prevent their method of stay.
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Why did you ever think otherwise?
Because Philippines, I meant a source for it ever happening successfully.

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