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Old 3rd September 2019, 06:06 AM
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A comment on the anti dummy laws.

If you are found to have used a dummy set up to acquire land then the transaction is voided at the time of the transaction.

My understanding is that the property will revert to the original owner, then you will have to fight to get your money if he doesn't have it or has hidden it somehow.

And lots of lawyers will produce the necessary documents to allow you to buy the property, then disappear or be somehow untouchable after the scheme falls through.

Personally I'd stick to keeping it completely above board and legal, no attempts at work around or gaming the system.

When you go to court, often the decision criteria is not what the law says, but who has the most money, you the rich foreigner or some poor local Philippine who was taken advantage of by the fast talking foreigner?

There are several examples on other threads of this, especially in regards to traffic accidents.
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Gorn, while you agree, question and disagree with input from members here, that is what a forum is about and perfectly acceptable. Unfortunately we appear to be going around in circles and failing to provide the answers you want to hear especially with no given info with regards to your particular circumstances so as you can see the info is broad and purely based on individual contributors experiences, I am not an attorney and as suggested twice now from memory in previous posts that you should do yourself a simple courtesy by contacting the PRA themselves to have your questions answered accurately so you fall within the law.
My case with regards to owning buildings and leases on land falls outside the norm as our relationship is not recognised in the Philippines thus my better half becomes a seperate entity, who knows things may change in the next 10 or 20 years and deal with it we will. At the end of the day the lease is there to protect myself in case of separation but at the end of the day my last will and testament leaves the property/lease null and voided by my sister (executor) providing I see out another perhaps 20 years/natural death etc.
As suggested spend your energies with the PRA as you are obviously achieving nothing on this forum, if you do manage to secure your answers from them then come back and share.

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I didn't have knowledge of an expat forum when I first came here so I didn't really understand many immigration issues and even if tried to ask the PBI or PRA it still wouldn't guarantee that I'll come out unscathed because their time is limited and so many applicants so these forums are very helpful if the information is taken if not then really what exactly are you going to accomplish??? Oh well...

I cut back on my drinking but on this day after getting soaked for 14,000 for not being aware that when I left for 3 years I'd have to pay some hefty fees for not performing my annual check in I was ready for a beer with my pizza before we headed home at an American chain... Denied it was a school day and a whole bunch of school kids in another adjacent room.

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Old 23rd September 2019, 09:00 AM
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..... even if tried to ask the PBI or PRA it still wouldn't guarantee that I'll come out unscathed because their time is limited and so many applicants......
You are talking technical bureaucratic issues in English with someone who is not a native English speaker. Lots of room fro misunderstandings to arise.


We are in a Asian country where the concept of "face" important. They will rather give you bad information than admit that they don't know. If you ask a local for directions, wait 5 minutes and ask another, continue until two give you directions that will end up at the same place.

In every bureaucratic organization there are people who are not up on the latest changes in their rule books, there are people who will try to impose what they think it should be instead of what it is.

Best is to always solicit multiple opinions on what really is the rules, then look them up your self and get some sort of convergent validity on what the rules really are in practice.
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While it is good to have a forum to give advice and gain knowledge from what other members have experienced, many people have different experiences with visa applications, in the end if you are seeking a visa go straight to Immigration they will set you straight and they are very helpful, I do not what started this topic but I will just say if someone is asking advise and the advise that is given back to that person is not taken, just let it go, as I have learnt not all people will take advise they have to learn the hard way...such is life
Well said Dan but I will add as I do (can't help myself, sorry) you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink nor see the trees for the forest. I do include myself in the previous two scenarios as I often make mistakes/fail to listen/ read incorrectly but inevitably find the correct answers with dedicated research and yes an occasionally apology to supporting members.

Info/experiences and ideas are generally sought on forums whether Whirlpool or expat sites or the like as a precursor to the hard yards to obtain the relevant/correct info. Though generalising contributors offer their not legal opinion/s and it is certainly up to the orchestrator to do his or her due diligence instead of fighting, perhaps the status quo.

Slap me but OMO.

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My bad, slapped again, thank god someone is in the drivers seat. Thanks Mark for your wisdom.

Cheers, Steve.
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Trying to keep this thread open because so many expats go the SRRV route Lol just need it to get back on track.

If there's any questions or if anyone doesn't like an answer for sure check with the PRA https://pra.gov.ph but so many here have gone through this experience and several members do have the SRRV Visa so there inputs are valuable good or bad take with a grain of salt we aren't Immigration Officers and always check with the Philippine Retirement Authority.
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Has anybody here gone the SRRV route after working here legally for any length of time?

I note in a few places its mentioned that deposited funds must be remitted from overseas.

I've been working here in PH for 5 years, 9(g) visa, so have more than enough savings here already to cover the deposit.

It would be a bit silly if I had to first send USD20K out of the Philippines and then remit it back in, if/when I decide to retire here.

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It would be a bit silly if I had to first send USD20K out of the Philippines and then remit it back in, if/when I decide to retire here.
Did you mean to say, It would be pretty typical of the Philippines if I had to first send USD20K out of the Philippines and then remit it back in, if/when I decide to retire here.

I actually think that you would have to do that. When the deposit reaches the bank here I am sure that there is a box on the form they use that the funds originated outside the Philippines.

When I wired my deposit into the country the incoming deposit fees were deducted, $US 25 if I remember. I paid this by cash and was asked if I had brought the money into the country with me or not, since I had only been here a couple days it was obvious that I had not acquired US currency, in small denominations, in the Philippines but they did ask.
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Just a reminder, PHP cant be transferred OUT of the Philippines. You have to convert PHP to USD, CAD, EURO, GBP or something else first and then you can transfer that out of the country.
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