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Old 19th August 2019, 01:00 PM
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While this topic has been covered many and many times again I will share my humble experiences and, as I do waffle on. here it comes again.
Firstly 8/9 years ago visited this fine country with all its foibles, while working as I do in many foreign countries met my better half some 8 years ago. I always worked in the provinces, (film and television) in PH. and security was always or seemed to lay in the hands of the locals, never a problem (an old saying spring to mind, bullish*t baffles brains) and many lessons learnt from my interpreter who became a friend and offered a wealth of knowledge not only for my well being but also how to deal with the locals. Simply. Tell me what you want or expect, so much easier in the local dialect and while never expecting much, the goods were always delivered.....

Living in Manila 8 years ago with my better half never felt uncomfortable nor uneasy about my locale/situation and walked many miles, jumped on the train or Jeepny to go further than 8 or 10 kms. Never a problem apart from actually squeezing in and while my better half went to work every day, constantly told me not to go here or not to go there and it did wear thin as I am an explorer and though 1 year living in Manila in an ivory tower I went out and lurked, learnt carefully yes but never a problem, lucky? Perhaps. Nope simply cautious no different to travelling any foreign country nor walking down a sleazy back ally in Sydney or Michigan.

Some years ago we purchased a house and lot in one of the provinces in northern Luzon, My better half and some of his relatives insisted we put bars on the windows for security, why I asked my better half? For security. But the Canadian guy that built the house, lived here for 8 years survived didn't he? No but we need that, Ben, stop listening to your relatives and look at how the neighbours live here, no bars, no stupid barking dogs, most and yes also us will have cctv only because Ben purchased cctv in Oz, considered a necessity before we finally moved there........... is now not a worry and yeah if we have the time will install.

In the mean time when ones number is up it seriously matters not the country but whether or no one had a good life or grievances and that's it sport, bye.
Definitely location but also observation and "lol" being astute, selecting the area to live as we do, safe for me? I feel no different to living on our back waters property in Oz.
Hey only an opinion, next week I may have passed on for not putting bars on the windows, and listening to family advice.

As an expat in PH. feel safer here than Oz, probably not for personal safety reasons but more from a government in OZ scrabbling to screw you backwards and then do it again,,,,,, deregistered from voting because all of them are tarred with the same brush no different to here in PH. It's nice to simply worry about eradicating termites, and herding the goats and cows off the property and enjoying a very simpler life, as said safe yes, prosper? Time tells all.

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We had bared windows installed for sure and we've actually had men climbing up on our house so a window wouldn't work so well.

I've been robbed twice once by knife and the other time a gang of teenagers surrounded me and they have a routine on how to get your wallet they practice and this happened right in the middle of a busy intersection and nobody flinched, it was as if I wasn't there but it was a big fight and they got my wallet.

At our home we went from no gate to a main gate and a gate at each entrance to our home so we have 3 additional gates and this was all due to the boldness of either my wife's friends or strangers they'd walk right into our home while we are in bed or inside the home watching TV and demanded a party, food or money, I got tired of people ruining our privacy and then asking them to leave this happened to us several times because we had a bamboo home and at the time no money for gates.

My wife's friend lost her only son 3 days ago he was robbed of his trike and killed they stuck a knife in the back of his neck, they live just a block from us, the tent is up on the road and on the other side of the road a 6 year old girl was run over by a truck yesterday the neighbor didn't' see her, she was picking up peanuts that she dropped on road her parents sent her out to get because they were drinking. We've had murders over the years and usually over drinking and teasing but brutal either by bolo knife or gun.

But for the most part we travel by public transportation and for a time there were many robberies of buses but so fare we've been fortunate but the dangers are there we must always be vigilante, I've caught men stalking us while in the cities looking for any opportunity to take my wife's purse or surround me again, at times I've had to stick my wife's purse inside my shirt and tuck my shirt in.

When I did drive, my cars done but every now and then I'd come close to a confrontation, I sometimes would get angered and say something out loud and my wife's reply to me was to keep quiet because many people carry guns and they will kill you, so the bottom line is listen to your partners on your safety concerns they are very real, I live among the general population I don't live in any private neighborhood or special area other than with the In-laws.
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I guess I was lucky to not have any problems while living there. I lived in Tagum city in Mindanao island. I walked by myself everyday through town, to the coffee shop, bank or the malls. I was there for almost a year. I lived on the ground floor row of apartments. If I was going to stay there for along time I would definitely live in a gated housing community with security guards. Mainly for control of the loud cars, trikes and dogs barking and chicken and rooster crowing. They don't allow that in the secured communities like Carmella homes subdivision. Noise is the biggest problem I can see in the Philippines.

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I guess I was lucky to not have any problems while living there. I lived in Tagum city in Mindanao island. I walked by myself everyday through town, to the coffee shop, bank or the malls. I was there for almost a year. I lived on the ground floor row of apartments. If I was going to stay there for along time I would definitely live in a gated housing community with security guards. Mainly for control of the loud cars, trikes and dogs barking and chicken and rooster crowing. They don't allow that in the secured communities like Carmella homes subdivision. Noise is the biggest problem I can see in the Philippines.

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well a yr is a small amount of time.....when I lived in Mindanao the employees at our local bank arranged a kidnapping of the bank manager because he offended them. They killed him and my very first night in Mindanao we were awakened by dogs barking because the pnp were beating the brush on a man hunt for the perps.
Threats are very real in the Philippines.
If any of you live there as long as mark you may see a little more of it.
Anything can happen at anytime anywhere,no matter how careful you are.
Guys with little time in the Philippines are just really beginners and haven't seen diddley. Read the news and backlogs of murders in Philippines. Theres a murder of a foreigner on a fairly regular basis. Philipinos kill each other over much of nothing,and a foreigner isn't a Pilipino. Until the last few yrs there was a murder of a foreigner once a month in Philippines,somewhere.
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Also as stated in many forums,a yr isn't enough time to know much of anything realistically...it takes yrs to really understand the place. Back and forth weekend warriors isn't living there either. To know the place it takes yrs of living there and being out in the population. Not hiding behind security etc. Granted,mca lives in a pretty ignorant native area. ALWAYS remember,a foreigner is a foreigner(you will NEVER be a Filipino to them.,even if u were it wouldn't matter. They kill each other all the time.
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Also as stated in many forums,a yr isn't enough time to know much of anything realistically...it takes yrs to really understand the place. Back and forth weekend warriors isn't living there either. To know the place it takes yrs of living there and being out in the population. Not hiding behind security etc. Granted,mca lives in a pretty ignorant native area. ALWAYS remember,a foreigner is a foreigner(you will NEVER be a Filipino to them.,even if u were it wouldn't matter. They kill each other all the time.
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I also can walk pretty much without worries but I am always vigilante especially after exiting a bank I guess I let my guard down and a trike driver was right there to take me to my next destination only to a secluded area so I jumped out this happened once before with a Jeepney and only one male passenger in the back they were headed off the beaten path so once again I jumped out but when you take public transportation you need to know the route.

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have you been keeping up on the mass murders we are having in the USA? the shootings here has gotten out of hand. I am afraid to go out in a large crowd now. so hearing about 1 murder a month in the Philippines doesn't seem to scare me very much.

We had 3 mass shootings here in just a month.

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The thing here in the Philippines is that you alone are responsible for you and your family's safety. Relying on law enforcement for assistance, protection or even directions is waste of time. We have our own transportation and I rarely walk anywhere outside the village unless with a large group. We are in a gated village with guards who are basically for show. Our property is surrounded by a gate and we keep our car off the roadway inside away from rascals that wander the streets. The big plus factor are the outside dogs. We have a good sized askal as well as an exceptionally ugly and over sized French Bulldog purchasd locally - he hates everyone except family...even when he is inside near the gate pedestrians cross over the street to the otherside to avoid being close to this dog. And highly recommend CCTV and post it's existence with signs on your property lines so even the nitwits realize they are on camera. I got the cameras post haste after a neighbor told us the some of the workers from down the street were out late one night and were peeking over our side wall to see what was inside...I also try to look straight ahead when outside...the drivers here are very "special" and I realize that getting in a beef will prove nothing but might lead to an undoing so best swallow the anger and move ahead. I was leaglly armed in the states for nearly 55 years with my employment and military service so I have had to make adjustments in my attitude...my wife "helps" me with that.
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Great thoughts, experiences and practices from all and as lefties wisely points out even though I have been coming back and forth over the years, lol, still back and forth even now in reality I am still a newbie but Ben is a local who insisted on fences and bars and now is much more relaxed after living in the house for some time, the biggest thing I think for him/me also was meeting and socialising with many of the neighbours that have lived here for a long time and though all have fences only half or less have barred windows but all have CCTV and the feed back is good, no burglaries, intrusions or dramas in our area, as said a pretty safe place to live, people walking on the beach steer well away from the houses and go about their business close to the water even on holy day when every body hits the beach. Never say never though and that goes for all countries.

Yes Reb my better half helps me to adjust with many things too as I did for him when we lived in Oz for 5 years, interestingly though he adjusted and fitted in very quickly, it's me having the difficulties with some cultural issues here but the worst would have to be the way business conducted here, could be so much easier.

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