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Old 29th August 2019, 11:27 PM
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Several years back I was also trying to get an International License and was told don't do it and it appears from that's the message I've heard over the years.

The Philippine Drivers License should be good but don't forget like everything else dealing with a government ID you have to keep your original Drivers License receipt, I was cleaning out my wallet the other day and noticed I had receipt for my drivers license in the wallet and nearly tossed it out sure would have made some space but it's one of those supporting documents the police might ask for.

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The Philippine Drivers License should be good but don't forget like everything else dealing with a government ID you have to keep your original Drivers License receipt, I was cleaning out my wallet the other day and noticed I had receipt for my drivers license in the wallet and nearly tossed it out sure would have made some space but it's one of those supporting documents the police might ask for.
You are telling me I need to keep the receipt on me as well as the plastic DL? That does not seem right. I don't plan on doing that as I don't use a wallet, just money clip with DL inside. I would think the paper receipt would only be necessary if you lost the plastic DL.

I just got my LTO DL today. "The Guy" was helpful in obtaining it.
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You are telling me I need to keep the receipt on me as well as the plastic DL? That does not seem right. I don't plan on doing that as I don't use a wallet, just money clip with DL inside. I would think the paper receipt would only be necessary if you lost the plastic DL.

I just got my LTO DL today. "The Guy" was helpful in obtaining it.
It depends on the officer but I've been stopped before for not wearing a seat belt and I don't remember him asking for a receipt.

Back in 2013-14 (a little off topic but hang with me) all foreigners had to report to the main office in Manila regardless of what location you lived on because they'd had a fire and or their data base was compromised and I think some ACR cards were fake and thousands of documents were lost and who knows maybe hard drives, I'll never forget that, they had tables set up because of the huge numbers of expats in line so maybe there's not a reliable back up for all these documents online hence the receipts for new ones.

Good idea to keep all your receipts and I'm not sure if you have to carry the Drivers License receipt but I remember years ago being told to have it with my drivers license burned up but I agree I probably wouldn't want to carry that either or the burdensome wallet I have a thin metal wallet that holds all my cards and it won't bend and a change bag for public transportation, I don't have a car anymore so for sure I won't be carrying that receipt.

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Another benefit that makes getting the ACR and 13A worth all of the BS. Showed them my US license, took there so called "physical" which was some teenager in a white coat stating "for sure" I am alive. Taking my picture; paying the fee and sitting on my azz for 2 hours and "wala" I now have a Philippine license with the motorcycle add.
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You can't technically get a DL with a Balikbayan either since the requirement is 30 days plus 12 months.

From my experience the international DL is good enough. They never ask how long you have been in the country. If they ask what your business is here in the PI just say you are visiting.

I guess there is a chance but I am willing to take any small risk like a minimal fine if I got caught.
I was stopped about a year ago whilst driving on my UK licence. The police officer also asked for my passport to check my entry date.
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I was stopped about a year ago whilst driving on my UK licence. The police officer also asked for my passport to check my entry date.
Hence not having your passport with you Dave, sorry officer it's at home or with immi as I am extending my visa to 59 days but as said if push comes to shove and there was an accident then problems would definitely arise if you have been in the country for more than 90 days, a risk many and foolhardy take because the system here is contradictory forcing those that want to abide by these laws to leave the country every 90 days and others to risk all.
Interestingly where we live is a small province, some 45K odd souls, when we go into town we see the same traffic enforcers and police officers and yes they see us also, we do tend to stand out us foreigners, though never stopped by them yet I'm sure it will come and to date I am legal as I am in and out of the country less than the 90 day "problem".

How does one address this oversight tactfully? Perhaps we need a voice in government that reflects the needs of those wishing to stay in this country, trying to assimilate and follow the law? Not going to happen as we are a speck in the ocean.
I guess after 90 days Ben will be doing all the driving until I go down the SRRV path, probably some years away.

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You are telling me I need to keep the receipt on me as well as the plastic DL? That does not seem right. I don't plan on doing that as I don't use a wallet, just money clip with DL inside. I would think the paper receipt would only be necessary if you lost the plastic DL.
I know when I went to open my BDO account a few years ago, the girl helping me told me to make sure and get the paper Original Receipt (OR) to show them when I came back from the LTO or they would not be able to accept the LTO Drivers License as valid ID.

This is due to a lot of fixers having their buddies at the LTO produce the plastic ID card but not actually put you into the computer system, so the card was technically a fake (even though it was produced at the LTO). If the LTO rep follows all the official steps and puts you in the system, they will generate the OR which is what places like banks want to make sure that it DL is a "valid ID".
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I know when I went to open my BDO account a few years ago, the girl helping me told me to make sure and get the paper Original Receipt (OR) to show them when I came back from the LTO or they would not be able to accept the LTO Drivers License as valid ID.

This is due to a lot of fixers having their buddies at the LTO produce the plastic ID card but not actually put you into the computer system, so the card was technically a fake (even though it was produced at the LTO). If the LTO rep follows all the official steps and puts you in the system, they will generate the OR which is what places like banks want to make sure that it DL is a "valid ID".
Just seems if you can make a fake DL then you could make a fake receipt. I would think a fake OR would be easier to produce.

In any case, people can do as they wish. I won't carry it but file it away with my other so called official PI documents.
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I guess holding a Philippines licence that you aren't qualified to hold would also become a problem. If the claim was big enough for the insurance company to dig into your imagination status they could determine that you were provided with the licence fraudulently and it won't be the issuing LTO that cops the flack.
They might. I would think that they may just stop at looking for a license but if enough money was at stake they would dig deeper.

I am legal in this aspect (all aspects actually) I have a SRRV and a Philippine license so no matter how long I stay I am covered as long as I do the regular renewals. I did a straight conversion, only got passenger car on my Philippine license, I did ask for motorcycle but since I did not have it on my home one they did not give it to me here.
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Just got my Philippine drivers license so can report on current requirements/process and also that the basic information here is correct. Spent a few days recently in San Fernando La Union so did the deed there, escorted by a Filipina friend. The applicant needs to bring/supply copies of foreign license, passport and current visa. With a form from LTO went down the street a few doors to get medical, took BP and passed basic hearing & vision tests, back to LTO with completed forms. Finger printed, photographed and application processed, 1 hour and done. Damage 400 pesos for medical and 853 for license. Asked about a motorcycle endorsement and was told to come back after 5 months, Sir.
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