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Hi all, I recently retired to the Philippines full time. I was there for three months getting settled and now I am back in the States for a month getting the rest of my things together before returning next month for good. I currently live in the same area as my ex-wife. Our divorce is final in the states but it is not yet recognized in the Philippines. Does anyone have any experience with this process of "Petition of recognition of foreign divorce?"

I am also concerned if I have an overnight guest at my place before the process is finished if I am leaving my self open for a charge of concubinage.

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Hi all, I recently retired to the Philippines full time. I was there for three months getting settled and now I am back in the States for a month getting the rest of my things together before returning next month for good. I currently live in the same area as my ex-wife. Our divorce is final in the states but it is not yet recognized in the Philippines. Does anyone have any experience with this process of "Petition of recognition of foreign divorce?"

I am also concerned if I have an overnight guest at my place before the process is finished if I am leaving my self open for a charge of concubinage.
did u submit it at nso ?
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No, not yet. As I understand it the petition for recognition is granted first which is basically a court order from the judiciary to PSA to accept the foreign divorce as valid in the Philippines. I know it is needed if I plan to re marry there. What I don't know is if I can be charged with concubinage if I don't do it.

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No, not yet. As I understand it the petition for recognition is granted first which is basically a court order from the judiciary to PSA to accept the foreign divorce as valid in the Philippines. I know it is needed if I plan to re marry there. What I don't know is if I can be charged with concubinage if I don't do it.
no idea,anything could happen I suppose
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No, not yet. As I understand it the petition for recognition is granted first which is basically a court order from the judiciary to PSA to accept the foreign divorce as valid in the Philippines. I know it is needed if I plan to re marry there. What I don't know is if I can be charged with concubinage if I don't do it.
Not sure why Any of that would be required. My divorce, which took 3 years here in US (WA State) finalized in Aug 2010 and my Asawa and I married in Nov 2010 in RP just a week before I headed off to Afghanistan. The Only thing I had to provide was the clearance to marry from the US Embassy to whom I had to provide the divorce docs at the interview there. My then fiance' provided that to the officials in Caloocan City with other required docs to get the marriage license and we were married a few weeks later.
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was your original marriage reported in the Philippines (ROM) ?

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was your original marriage reported in the Philippines (ROM) ?
Not directly to Philippines that I know of. Just had to get marriage clearance via embassy walk in and present 2 prior divorce decrees ( Yes, this 3rd rodeo is my Third AND Last!) and as we recall, they gave me the embassy clearance papers that wife then took straight to city hall and turned over for license processing along with my passport to copy, etc. However, Id done 10 trips to see her by then, staying together and traveling, etc and never a worry. Im pretty sure we never had to provide the divorce decrees to R P govt at anytime. As a side, wife had asked Catholic Church about wedding there in light of divorces and they said no, but only because my first marriage was in the Catholic Church in NY; so, no 2nd chances there as you know.

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I was married in the states to a Filipina, but we registered our marriage with the Chicago Consulate, so technically, we are married in the Philippines as far as they are concerned, if that is also the same case, you would need a Cenomar because the divorce is illegal by law, not religion. If you never registered your marriage in the Philippines you do not have to have the divorce recognized there as you are not married "officially" there ... strange I know

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I was married in the states to a Filipina, but we registered our marriage with the Chicago Consulate, so technically, we are married in the Philippines as far as they are concerned, if that is also the same case, you would need a Cenomar because the divorce is illegal by law, not religion. If you never registered your marriage in the Philippines you do not have to have the divorce recognized there as you are not married "officially" there ... strange I know
My prior marriage was to US citizen...actually both were...so no need to report it to RO. They only cared that I was clear to marry, knowing I was divorced, via US embassy verifying the divorce. Now if Id married an RP citizen previously?...Yeah can see that being a whole different ball of wax.
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Now my Asawa, yeah She did have to get the venom at there same as any Filipino marrying in the RP.

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