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Old 12th June 2019, 10:52 PM
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We consulted a builder to quote supply and install a fence on 2 boundaries, 30 metres on the road/access side and 60 metres on the north side. We asked for 2.4 metres high on the north side rendered both sides. The entry we asked for the same height columns but the rendered block work only 1.5 metres high then horizontal hardwood timber (termite proof) 200mm x 50mm or 8 x 2's as they call them here, 1 set of gates matching, small capitols on the top of the posts only on the entry side. A fairly simple fence and a pretty straight forward project. We were going to paint timber not builder.

The quote came in at PHP 1.2M and was only 2 metres high, when I pointed this out to the builder he said it was too expensive so he dropped the height, go figure?
Regardless all my research over the years lead me to believe that a good solid high fence should max out at no more than PHP 6,000 per lineal metre, so this job should be around 550,000 pesos.

Experience and input greatly appreciated.

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As I remember, when we had our 8 ft. perimeter fence/wall put up(about 3-4 years ago), it came out in the vicinity of 5800 per ft. Part was solid wall w/columns and part was fence w/columns. This was fence/wall only as we had a different contractor build and install a metal dual opening 12 ft gate with a pedestrian door in it. This is in Iloilo on Panay Island.

Keep in mind that you will have to develop a "hands on" attitude during the construction as the workmanship here is shoddy and they seem to not take any pride in what they do and you will end up with not satisfactory results. There have been some discussions of this in past threads. I have had to have parts of my columns dismantled in order to have my gate hinges welded into the rebar structure as it was not done properly and started to sag badly and there have been many instances of poor workmanship in the construction of my house. I have yet to find a local so-called builder who will stand behind their work/building. They will expect to be paid more to correct anything.

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As I remember, when we had our 8 ft. perimeter fence/wall put up(about 3-4 years ago), it came out in the vicinity of 5800 per ft. Part was solid wall w/columns and part was fence w/columns. This was fence/wall only as we had a different contractor build and install a metal dual opening 12 ft gate with a pedestrian door in it. This is in Iloilo on Panay Island.

Keep in mind that you will have to develop a "hands on" attitude during the construction as the workmanship here is shoddy and they seem to not take any pride in what they do and you will end up with not satisfactory results. There have been some discussions of this in past threads. I have had to have parts of my columns dismantled in order to have my gate hinges welded into the rebar structure as it was not done properly and started to sag badly and there have been many instances of poor workmanship in the construction of my house. I have yet to find a local so-called builder who will stand behind their work/building. They will expect to be paid more to correct anything.

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not a rant Fred,,fact!!
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People there can't even run a straight wifi cable in a house. When I had internet installed in my apartment they just ran it crooked across my wall. then ran it down the wall crooked to the base boards. I made them get a tape out and measure the distances and run it straight since they didn't know what a level was there.

I couldn't imagine having them build me a house there. hahahah

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Thanks for your wise words Fred, I am well aware that I need to be here and hands on with any type of work/construction as I had plenty of experience with local "tradesmen?" with my working here 7 and 8 years ago, as they say "you have to watch them like a hawk".

We were having a few drinks with our neighbour from across the road yesterday, I broached the subject of his beautiful fence and polished stainless steel gates. His fence is 8 to 10 foot high and very intricate in its design including lights on the top of each concrete post, stone tile features etc. A beautiful fence with lots of detail and great workmanship. His block is 50M x 40M (2,000 M2). He built the fence 7 years ago and cost PHP 1.8M so at that time PHP 10,000 per lineal metre. Good info from him and I have not taken inflation into account.
Our fence will be fairly simple in design and only 8 ft high so I'm hoping we get some quotes in at PhP 6 to 7K per metre, time will tell.

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People there can't even run a straight wifi cable in a house. When I had internet installed in my apartment they just ran it crooked across my wall. then ran it down the wall crooked to the base boards. I made them get a tape out and measure the distances and run it straight since they didn't know what a level was there.

I couldn't imagine having them build me a house there. hahahah

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Yes we all hear you art, many years ago we had a 2.5HP A/C installed in our condo in Manila, Ben was there through the installation, I got home as they were finishing, I had a look at their job and couldn't believe that they installed the outdoor unit back the front, I pointed this out and their response was "Less copper tube and wiring" to which I replied fix it as it won't work properly and then the arguments began until I showed them and asked them to read the installation manual.......... sorry sir, it was early evening when they left. Many apologies, I bet they will do it again,,,,,,,, penny wise pound foolish as they say.

It's more fun in the Philippines and certainly keeps us on our toes.

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It's more fun in the Philippines and certainly keeps us on our toes.

Cheers, Steve.
Sometimes turns out to be an exercise in futility and frustration. I have learned to use my Asawa as a buffer/ go between and it surely does cut down on the consternation I feel as I have lived my whole life feeling that it should be done right the first time thusly eliminating a do-over which costs less than what seems to be the norm here which is to do as quickly and cheaply as possible and usually results in doing again or correcting which always costs more in the long run.

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Sometimes turns out to be an exercise in futility and frustration. I have learned to use my Asawa as a buffer/ go between and it surely does cut down on the consternation I feel as I have lived my whole life feeling that it should be done right the first time thusly eliminating a do-over which costs less than what seems to be the norm here which is to do as quickly and cheaply as possible and usually results in doing again or correcting which always costs more in the long run.

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Thanks to all for the input especially lefties comment "fact" and I say "ain't that the truth".
Lessons to learn as we have to date. Our house here had ceilings in the bedrooms and bathrooms but not the kitchen/living areas nor the hallways or laundry. Got a quote (same guy that over quoted on the fence) and the brief was perfectly flat ceilings and no cracks, I wanted Gyprock (plaster), no sir you are on the beach and with typhoons water will destroy the ceiling,,,,,,, 6mm cement sheet was the suggestion, I don't care Mr. builder as long it is flat and we won't see the joins and no cracks, yes sir we install this all the time, OK, do it....

Yes I love to drag a story out, sorry. 4 guys over 2 weeks because I made them straighten the timber battens 4 times even though we had the supposed architect/supervisor here 2 to 3 hours a day.

The long and short is that we can see every joint and they are also cracking, going the architect for recompense as we will pull the ceilings out in due course and have it done properly. wish me luck on getting monies back, lol. The good thing is that this was an inexpensive job and we learnt not to use this guy again. Ever!

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Good idea to let Asawa be the go between and as always, watch your backside my friend! Makes me cringe when I read of Expats being killed over the simplest of disputes, such as the one shot/killed in Batangas City simply over residential parking dispute issue. Wife apparently shot in thigh (?) from a through and through wound to him, who was shot 3x. Welcome to the land of NQR! It was that way on the Subic Base as well back in the days when was a US facility. Besides, it's more fun in the RP....just hope our rental next several years has less fun and games associated with it. Good luck.
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My bad, I stand corrected by my neighbour on his fence costs. It was constructed 8 to 9 years ago and was PHP 1.5M. This included footings and stone walls to create the new ground level (in places 5 ft high) then filling and levelling the block then the fence construction. Obviously we are going to contact his builder for a quote, wish us luck.

Cheers, Steve.

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