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How big a sailboat? If it was a full semi trailer load then that was pretty cheap.

We used to charge out (or pay depending on the needs) semi with dump trailers at between $CDN 120 to $CDN 150 per hour Say ($US 90 to $US 120) for road construction work. A distance hauler would be a little more because of down time on the road needing to be paid (a trucker can typically only drive 10-12 hours a day) and a long distance rig having sleeper cabs etc.

That is about a 40 hour drive (depending where in Ca and where in Florida) so at least $3,600 for a full load one way. You may get a break if it is a back haul (the rig was going that way anyway, empty or not) or if less than a full load. and the trucker was able to fill the rest of the load.

Pricing transportation is a pretty complex area with lots of variables, land distance, load full or not, is it a back haul or not, time constraints, tolls en route, height restrictions, containerized loads or not, hazardous goods, volumes shipped, special handling or rigging needed (how do you tie down a sailboat on a semi trailer?) etc.

If you priced out the service got 3 or more quotes that were close then that is about the going rate. This is an area that is highly competitive in most places and everyone in the business knows the rates, how busy the competition is right now etc.

If you were happy with the service and with what you paid then you got a good deal. Perhaps a more knowledgeable person, or one in less of a hurry, or someone who ships a lot of loads around may have gotten a better deal but perhaps not.

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To get a rough idea. (2017 costs)

https://moverdb.com/container-shipping/

A 20 ft container from New York to Manila is about $US 700. Other direction might be more as more goods go that direction. That;s port to port, land transport costs will be a few bucks per mile plus loading and unloading costs.

I'd guess shipping speed would matter as well, next ship out might be more than if you are willing to wait a couple weeks for a ship with spare room.
I just got a quote from them for a 20í container, door to door from Florida to Cebu,
$5,800.00. Yikes.
Iím beginning to wonder if I really like my stuff all that much. Lol

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I just got a quote from them for a 20’ container, door to door from Florida to Cebu,
$5,800.00. Yikes.
I’m beginning to wonder if I really like my stuff all that much. Lol
It does give one some thoughts. I found that I don't have the "need" for all the stuff that I thought I had to have. Unbelievable how much stuff one collects during living someplace and how much of it is "needed" and how much is actually required. We sold/gave away everything except shipped 4 Balikbayan boxes and the suitcases we carried.

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It does give one some thoughts. I found that I don't have the "need" for all the stuff that I thought I had to have. Unbelievable how much stuff one collects during living someplace and how much of it is "needed" and how much is actually required. We sold/gave away everything except shipped 4 Balikbayan boxes and the suitcases we carried.

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Same here Fred. I’ve been here for a year and haven’t needed or missed much of anything that I have in the US aside from maybe appliances which wouldn’t be of much use here and some tools. My computer, TV and Nvidia box I have l have already replaced here.
I need to formulate some kind of plan though as everything is sitting in storage at home costing me money with each passing month.
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Same here Fred. Iíve been here for a year and havenít needed or missed much of anything that I have in the US aside from maybe appliances which wouldnít be of much use here and some tools. My computer, TV and Nvidia box I have l have already replaced here.
I need to formulate some kind of plan though as everything is sitting in storage at home costing me money with each passing month.
I landed with just my two checked bags, so far to replace what I left behind has been less than shipping would have been. I have since picked up my dive gear and brought it back with me.

I am however in a rather unique situation, or should I say one extreme of the possession department. After my divorce I left my ex with just about everything since I was not going to live in Canada any more. I did stay a couple years and simply bought some lower end but serviceable furniture. My daughter now has it and it is in her rental unit so she can advertise it as a furnished apartment. So far she has collected more additional rent than I paid, and I got 20 months use out of it. (However dear old dad never saw a penny lol)

North American furniture is simply not all that suitable for use in Philippines. Unless you are from the south the climate is so different, apartment sizes are different, voltages are different it is just as easy to sell everything save on shipping and replace once here and then you start a fresh life with new furniture suitable for your home and the local climate.

All I would ever recommend to anyone to bring are things of immense sentimental value, special items for your hobbies etc and just buy new here for everything else.
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It does give one some thoughts. I found that I don't have the "need" for all the stuff that I thought I had to have. Unbelievable how much stuff one collects during living someplace and how much of it is "needed" and how much is actually required. We sold/gave away everything except shipped 4 Balikbayan boxes and the suitcases we carried.

No regrets.

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So true Fred and some people can do this and others like me decided to ship. All the things we brought here especially good quality furniture, collectable paintings, sentimental stuff etc, we cannot buy here. On reflection we should have sent more as there are many things especially tools that I was going to send but the container was full.
I did do the costings time and again and for me it was a no brainer, simple things like sell a $ 3,000.00 bed for a hundred bucks then replace it here? That's only 1 item. $ 20,000.00 of indigenous artwork that I won't part with, yes we also sent some 25 paintings to auction and did very well, ones I could live without. We also sold heaps of stuff that I thought we didn't need but on reflection already miss some like my Stihl chainsaw and a simple 20 dollar cement sheet cutter.

Unfortunately the sale of our house in Oz fell over so I am heading back this weekend for who knows how long as there are lawns to mow, pool and property maintenance etc until it sells. Don't want to impose on my friends to do this.
While I am there I will be sending 3 or 4 Balakbayan boxes to Bengie, simple things like decent clothes pegs, decent fixing screws and a plethora of more "junk". unavailable here.

Any way in those famous words "I shall return".

Cheers Steve,
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So true Fred and some people can do this and others like me decided to ship. All the things we brought here especially good quality furniture, collectable paintings, sentimental stuff etc, we cannot buy here. On reflection we should have sent more as there are many things especially tools that I was going to send but the container was full.
I did do the costings time and again and for me it was a no brainer, simple things like sell a $ 3,000.00 bed for a hundred bucks then replace it here? That's only 1 item. $ 20,000.00 of indigenous artwork that I won't part with, yes we also sent some 25 paintings to auction and did very well, ones I could live without. We also sold heaps of stuff that I thought we didn't need but on reflection already miss some like my Stihl chainsaw and a simple 20 dollar cement sheet cutter.

Unfortunately the sale of our house in Oz fell over so I am heading back this weekend for who knows how long as there are lawns to mow, pool and property maintenance etc until it sells. Don't want to impose on my friends to do this.
While I am there I will be sending 3 or 4 Balakbayan boxes to Bengie, simple things like decent clothes pegs, decent fixing screws and a plethora of more "junk". unavailable here.

Any way in those famous words "I shall return".

Cheers Steve,
Agreed. Tools are probably my missed items here. Sorry to hear that the house sale fell through Steve. That sucks.
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How big a sailboat? If it was a full semi trailer load then that was pretty cheap.

We used to charge out (or pay depending on the needs) semi with dump trailers at between $CDN 120 to $CDN 150 per hour Say ($US 90 to $US 120) for road construction work. A distance hauler would be a little more because of down time on the road needing to be paid (a trucker can typically only drive 10-12 hours a day) and a long distance rig having sleeper cabs etc.

That is about a 40 hour drive (depending where in Ca and where in Florida) so at least $3,600 for a full load one way. You may get a break if it is a back haul (the rig was going that way anyway, empty or not) or if less than a full load. and the trucker was able to fill the rest of the load.

Pricing transportation is a pretty complex area with lots of variables, land distance, load full or not, is it a back haul or not, time constraints, tolls en route, height restrictions, containerized loads or not, hazardous goods, volumes shipped, special handling or rigging needed (how do you tie down a sailboat on a semi trailer?) etc.

If you priced out the service got 3 or more quotes that were close then that is about the going rate. This is an area that is highly competitive in most places and everyone in the business knows the rates, how busy the competition is right now etc.

If you were happy with the service and with what you paid then you got a good deal. Perhaps a more knowledgeable person, or one in less of a hurry, or someone who ships a lot of loads around may have gotten a better deal but perhaps not.
32ft sailboat. On a low loader. Had to have a police escort through California due to the oversize land. That cost extra of course. Yes I searched around for several quotes.
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Well now that sucks to have to go back because of the deal falling through.

Just for info, and this may or may not be for some or any, but putting it out as food for thought for those who may want to be cleared back where we came from. This may not be available everywhere either.

In 2008 or 2009, sometime after my last wife died, I took out a 'reverse mortgage' on the house & lot I had owned in Globe, Az for about 20 years( it had been free & clear about 10 years with no liens against it). When we (Asawa & I) moved to the ROP in 2014, all I did was shut off the water, gas, & elect, lock the doors and mail them the keys with a note. All done.

If more info is needed by anyone, I will be glad to explain more or more details if anyone is interested.

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Well now that sucks to have to go back because of the deal falling through.

Just for info, and this may or may not be for some or any, but putting it out as food for thought for those who may want to be cleared back where we came from. This may not be available everywhere either.

In 2008 or 2009, sometime after my last wife died, I took out a 'reverse mortgage' on the house & lot I had owned in Globe, Az for about 20 years( it had been free & clear about 10 years with no liens against it). When we (Asawa & I) moved to the ROP in 2014, all I did was shut off the water, gas, & elect, lock the doors and mail them the keys with a note. All done.

If more info is needed by anyone, I will be glad to explain more or more details if anyone is interested.

Fred
Unfortunately Fred it's a million plus dollar property and unfortunately I can't walk away, requires maintenance and then some....... Renting? Forget it. Need to be on the ground to keep up appearances and besides I will go back to work and rake in some bucks to pay for the proverbial over priced fence/not.

Cheers, Steve.
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