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Old 21st January 2019, 03:37 AM
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Look up "Is the Philippines the next Djibouti?" at GlobalBalita.com website. Pretty much matches my thoughts on this subject.

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Good call Fred and I could not agree more. Thing is here is that China already has a mass presents in the South China sea with man made islands swarming with it's military. Owing anything like this in Subic etc would put a military strangle hold on the country so tight that save a major war with the US would be the only get them out.
For the most part I think, greed, apathy, uninformed and a poor me population is why this is happening. Since 1945 the Philippines has wasted, squandered their freedoms that hundreds of thousands died to give or keep for them.
Will the United States and allied countries come to their aid and liberate them yet again?
I could be wrong naturally but I would seriously doubt the US or others would make more that a token try.


So where does that leave us as expats with families. Many of us do not have the financial ability to leave here with or without our families. So where does that leave us? Up the proverbial creek. Many US citizens living here depend on only US Social Security for the needs of life. If a China takeover were to occur social security would stop without a doubt and many would end up dying in country. So did we make a serious mistake moving to and living here? Time will tell..
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So now we go to 'wait & see what happens next' mode. Actually that is about all we can do, and then be prepared to make some decisions as things unfold. Hard to tell what our home governments can or will be able to do as far as any assistance, it will depend on the circumstances and what is happening at the moment. There are many expats from many different countries living here and it might be a wise thing to make sure each of our embassys knows of our wherebouts.

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So how do all the expats living in China get on?

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And around it goes. Not trying to be political or aligning any where as it is relevant to all countries including my own.

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And to Gary and all others I am sure expats living in China or working there are not paupers or they like me would move to the Philippines or similar persuasions and then some.

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And around it goes. Not trying to be political or aligning any where as it is relevant to all countries including my own.

https://tinyurl.com/ydzbnwdj

And to Gary and all others I am sure expats living in China or working there are not paupers or they like me would move to the Philippines or similar persuasions and then some.

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Howdy Steve,

Yea Gary had a good point or question with expats living in China. Considering they don't even have Facebook they like everyone else would be highly restricted in many ways.
For US retirees, living in China or a Chinese controlled Philippines makes collecting US Social Security imposible. US residents in some countries can not get their SS by US law. China is one and Vietnam is another and there are probably others.

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Hey Gene,
As always Gary raises the questions as he is a thinking type human being and emotions rarely get in the way of fact, on the ball and always offering a different view/perception whether we like it or not, I always admire the left field reality that Gary throws in though I don't always agree it is refreshing to see an alternate opinion.
As for pensions as you would have read in previous posts after 45 years of paying taxes I am self funded and will never receive "the almighty pension". My bad for not being poor apparently.
Sorry for going off topic with Subic but only a lowly opinion and concur with other opinions that China is now the power to be reckoned with and walls, guns and rights are the least of our worries now.

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Hey Gene,
As always Gary raises the questions as he is a thinking type human being and emotions rarely get in the way of fact, on the ball and always offering a different view/perception whether we like it or not, I always admire the left field reality that Gary throws in though I don't always agree it is refreshing to see an alternate opinion.
As for pensions as you would have read in previous posts after 45 years of paying taxes I am self funded and will never receive "the almighty pension". My bad for not being poor apparently.
Sorry for going off topic with Subic but only a lowly opinion and concur with other opinions that China is now the power to be reckoned with and walls, guns and rights are the least of our worries now.

Cheers, Steve.
You're right Steve. Gary does provide some good posts and it is good that all here are able to digest and enjoy all our opinions on things. Wish he'd do more posting.

I think China is the big player now but only in the Asia Pacific area. Their military is large but no real combat experience over the years and a lot of their military hardware and equipment is quite substandard. I think that as long as the US has the mutual defence treaty with the Philippines China will likely not start something that they cannot win. Would just be shame for one of China's overzealous generals or admirals make a fateful mistake that would cost them dearly.

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told wife same thing last week...china is financing the big reservoir in zambales now....what happens when phils doesn't pay it? takeover. Best learn to speak Chinese. Honestly,son and I don't miss it.
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I wonder if the Chinese realise the the tagalog for loan is gift.

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I wonder if the Chinese realise the the tagalog for loan is gift.
LOL. Had to laugh at that. You can be quite assured that there is a substantial difference in the way money matters are looked at. Going to be quite the surprise to the Chinese when they start to get all the excuses for not repaying. Then again, they may not be surprised at all and may expect such as part of the long range plan.

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