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The meter reader also accussed us of stealing electricty when he saw the earth wire and earthing rod outside the house, he thought it was a jumper.
Decades ago they would pull out the meter and insert it upside down for 10 or so days after the meter was read (it reversed the gears), then re insert correctly until the next reading. They fixed it so that can no longer be done. There is a poor area not far from me, they busted some for somehow putting sugar inside the meter which attracted ants and stopped the gears from spinning but the electric continued.

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I bought my grounding rods/clamps at Topwood years ago. They sell proper length, size copper in Earth grounding rods and clamps. Citi Hardware near you may have them.

Thunderbird and many of the Foreign Managed Owned Resorts in our area are properly grounded and use electricians who know how to properly install grounded set ups. I'd refer mine but no way he'll travel to your area for work as he is too busy with all that is going on near where I am. Some items are available at National Bazar or CSI but I typically bought all my GFCI & other grounded outlets at Wilcon in Angeles City. Was a great excuse to do a bar run.
Hope you enjoyed the drink, i'm sure you did, poor ******. What I find amusing is that all power outlets (GPO's) that I have seen in Ph. are not switched. As in you cannot turn the outlet off, to isolate you have to unplug.
I am sure you will recommend a good sparky that understands "safe" when we do our reno's and extensions.
Thunderbird is over priced and service is wanting, ( wait for your beer unless you sit at the bar in the western sun unless you are an early starter) perhaps the sparky blew the budget? All in all central Luzon is a great place to put your roots down as long as that earth stake is 3 ft in the ground and you have a sparky that understands that a lighting circuit it not the same as a power circuit and doesn't require a residual current device.

I/we can all go on,,,,,,, as I will. The property we purchased has electricity, great. I asked the previous owner/builder why are there bare wires sticking out from the eves where the power should be connected?
Simple, with the typhoons the power always went out so we changed the supply to underground, ok so where is your under ground? There, running along the fence and into the house,,,,,,,,, all above ground but at least it's in a conduit.
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My problem with the fittings in the Philippines is that they are basically cheap chinese copies of US style fittings. The Problem is that US fitting are designed to be run on 110Vac, the Philippines is 230Vac.

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So I'll be bringing some RCD's or ELCB's (will ask my sparky) when we ship our lot there, also have to find an electrician that is up to speed on earthing and all things safe in PH. ,,,,,,,,, The mind boggles with what I have read here. Good words of warning Maxx.

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A while back I ran into some trouble with the electrical utility company regarding the type of wire we had used for our mains (plastic coating was peeling off, and they mistook it for an illegal connection) Well, to make a long story short, they made me change my main wires and also change the main circuit breaker on the side of my house.

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Above is a picture of the new weatherproof box the utility company made me install. I purchased this one at Ace, for around 2,000 Php, and I painted it white to match my house.

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In our area they require you to have a residual breaker on your main lines. Previously I just had an ordinary surface mount breaker in a wooden box that I made, but I think that this type of breaker offers much better protection. A while back my wife spilled some water onto a powers strip she was using to run a fan out on the patio. The new residual breaker kicked off right away, but none of the breakers inside my house in the main circuit breaker panel kicked.

Anyway, I think that if my sister-in-law had a miniature residual breaker like the one I have in the above photo, then I think that - that would have protected her when her light fixture shorted out. Too make a long story short, the breakers in my main panel seem to be unreliable junk, but the residual breaker mounted on the outside wall of my house seems to be reliable.
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Great stuff on this thread. I keep hoping that one day we will have a professional writer that will combine this and other threads and put it into book form. That then should be required reading for anyone foolish er--ah-----brave enough to retire in the Philippines. Crazy place. Fifteen years here and
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A while back I ran into some trouble with the electrical utility company regarding the type of wire we had used for our mains (plastic coating was peeling off, and they mistook it for an illegal connection) Well, to make a long story short, they made me change my main wires and also change the main circuit breaker on the side of my house.

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Above is a picture of the new weatherproof box the utility company made me install. I purchased this one at Ace, for around 2,000 Php, and I painted it white to match my house.

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In our area they require you to have a residual breaker on your main lines. Previously I just had an ordinary surface mount breaker in a wooden box that I made, but I think that this type of breaker offers much better protection. A while back my wife spilled some water onto a powers strip she was using to run a fan out on the patio. The new residual breaker kicked off right away, but none of the breakers inside my house in the main circuit breaker panel kicked.

Anyway, I think that if my sister-in-law had a miniature residual breaker like the one I have in the above photo, then I think that - that would have protected her when her light fixture shorted out. Too make a long story short, the breakers in my main panel seem to be unreliable junk, but the residual breaker mounted on the outside wall of my house seems to be reliable.
Would you kindly post a close up of the residual breaker only. I may have my Electrician add this set up to the outside. Thanks!
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We had a roof leak in an apartment. The water ran down the wall and into the "breaker" for the shower water heater. It fill with water and just arced and sparked. Not only did it not trip, but the breaker in the main panel did not trip. Not a surprise, really.

Oh, and for electrical tape... Uncle is an "electrician" here. Been paid to do electrical work for 40 years, anyway. I put a solar switch on our porch light and he came along behind me and removed all the wire nuts. He just twisted the wire together and put electrical tape. He said it holds better than wire nuts. I say he is nuts ha ha.
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We had a roof leak in an apartment. The water ran down the wall and into the "breaker" for the shower water heater. It fill with water and just arced and sparked. Not only did it not trip, but the breaker in the main panel did not trip. Not a surprise, really.

Oh, and for electrical tape... Uncle is an "electrician" here. Been paid to do electrical work for 40 years, anyway. I put a solar switch on our porch light and he came along behind me and removed all the wire nuts. He just twisted the wire together and put electrical tape. He said it holds better than wire nuts. I say he is nuts ha ha.
Wire nuts are not rated for 230Vac so there may be some method in his madness.

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Great stuff on this thread. I keep hoping that one day we will have a professional writer that will combine this and other threads and put it into book form. That then should be required reading for anyone foolish er--ah-----brave enough to retire in the Philippines. Crazy place. Fifteen years here and
I still feel like I'm living in a low budget Three Stooges Movie---that never ends

They say that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time could type the complete works of shakespear. In my area they are still looking for the typewriter.
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