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mbeast 9th March 2018 01:06 AM

UK Gent Engaged To Filipina Lady, Advice Needed Please
 
hi,

i met my fiance online and spent 3 month video chating before visiting for 2 weeks.
thankfully we get on really great and have decided to get married in the near future.

in a few weeks i will be going back to the philippines to visit again but looking for advice on which way to go next, like where is best to get married, there or the uk and then how do i go about getting her to be able to live with me in the uk although after a few years we might both move back to the philippines.

i'm a homeowner and drive coaches for a living so meet requirements for housing and providing for her but i'm unsure as to what else i'd need to do, how best to go about it and around what time frame it would all take so any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks :)

lefties43332 9th March 2018 01:11 AM

give it some time..u really dont know her yet.

mbeast 9th March 2018 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lefties43332 (Post 14141418)
give it some time..u really dont know her yet.

we are not in a rush but i would like to know what i'm letting myself in for as far as being able to live together in the near future :)

Simon1983 9th March 2018 01:19 AM

If you are planning to bring her to the UK why not do that before you get married?

Getting a Filipina over to the UK is quite complicated, and being married does not in fact make it any easier.

You need to think of the worst case scenario. For example if you get married but can not bring her to the UK, what will you do?

Also bear in mind that video chatting is a lot different from living together, especially if one of you will be living in a foreign country. This can put strain on a relationship - e.g. if she wants to return to Philippines but you want to stay in England.

You should put off marriage until you have lived together for a few years. By that time you will have been through a lot of ups and downs (if only with immigration, getting used to a new country, etc), and you will know each other a lot better.

Also bear in mind if you marry in the Philippines there is no divorce here so you would be making life very hard for your partner if in the future the relationship does not work out.

Asian Spirit 9th March 2018 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbeast (Post 14141402)
hi,

i met my fiance online and spent 3 month video chating before visiting for 2 weeks.
thankfully we get on really great and have decided to get married in the near future.

in a few weeks i will be going back to the philippines to visit again but looking for advice on which way to go next, like where is best to get married, there or the uk and then how do i go about getting her to be able to live with me in the uk although after a few years we might both move back to the philippines.

i'm a homeowner and drive coaches for a living so meet requirements for housing and providing for her but i'm unsure as to what else i'd need to do, how best to go about it and around what time frame it would all take so any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks :)

Howdy Mbeast And Welcome,

You are going to get enough replies to your post to fill a large book without doubt. The replies you get may not be what you want to hear but are from experience from members here including me.
I'm married and have lived here in the islands for 15 years now and have (through friends) seen just about everything both good and bad. Anyway, again, welcome. I'll probably chime in later on.


Asian Spirit

mbeast 9th March 2018 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon1983 (Post 14141458)
If you are planning to bring her to the UK why not do that before you get married?

Getting a Filipina over to the UK is quite complicated, and being married does not in fact make it any easier.

You need to think of the worst case scenario. For example if you get married but can not bring her to the UK, what will you do?

Also bear in mind that video chatting is a lot different from living together, especially if one of you will be living in a foreign country. This can put strain on a relationship - e.g. if she wants to return to Philippines but you want to stay in England.

You should put off marriage until you have lived together for a few years. By that time you will have been through a lot of ups and downs (if only with immigration, getting used to a new country, etc), and you will know each other a lot better.

Also bear in mind if you marry in the Philippines there is no divorce here so you would be making life very hard for your partner if in the future the relationship does not work out.

hi, thank you for your reply,

to be honest the date for us to marry and location has not been set, from what i have read it looks like getting a visa to stay here in the UK or in the philippines can be a lot of hard work.
as much as we both really want to spend the rest of our lives together, i really don't like the idea of us being apart most of the time as visits to and from can soon start to add up and i don't really fancy selling my house to fund the start of our relationship when we will need it for our home together.

Simon1983 9th March 2018 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbeast (Post 14141546)
hi, thank you for your reply,

to be honest the date for us to marry and location has not been set, from what i have read it looks like getting a visa to stay here in the UK or in the philippines can be a lot of hard work.
as much as we both really want to spend the rest of our lives together, i really don't like the idea of us being apart most of the time as visits to and from can soon start to add up and i don't really fancy selling my house to fund the start of our relationship when we will need it for our home together.

Don't sell your house. Having a house in the UK will help you if you want to sponsor your partner to live in the UK.
Also helpful are savings and a salary.

You should check the UK gov website for the visa you want to apply for if planning to bring your partner to the UK.

If you want to spend more time in the Philippines, dont sell your house to fund that. If you put any money into the Philippines you will find it hard to get it out again, and nothing will be in your name.

JRB__NW 9th March 2018 03:27 AM

Oyy, I really urge caution, for your sake. You haven't shared many details about her, your age gap, where she's from, etc.. but in this country two weeks simply isn't enough time to make a decision like that. Things are often not as presented.. Of course I understand from personal experience that one gets knocked over by these beautiful, friendly and (sometimes) caring women.. but all is not always as it seems. There is no woman more efficient at extracting support than a Filipina.

Just as an example, do you know for a FACT that she is not previously married? Many Filipina's will claim to be single (and are for all practical purposes) but upon further investigation are actually previously married and since there's no divorce, the man either has to try to get her previous marriage annulled or give up bringing her back home. Or in a worse case scenario, the husband or local boyfriend is hiding in the background. Ask to see a CENOMAR (certificate of no marriage). There may also be children, whether or not she's married. I'm not trying to scare you but these things happen all the time.

As I said I have no knowledge of your situation but simply urge caution. And I wish you the best. I hope it works out.

Gary D 9th March 2018 07:12 AM

Just to straighten out a couple of facts given incorrectly. Get married in the Philippines or get married in the Uk makes no difference, you can still divorce in the UK. You can try and bring her here on a fience visa but you will need to marry within 3 months so you can't just live together for a couple of year to see how it goes. You would need to go to the Philippines to do that. If you arn't able to meet the visa requirements for a fiance vise you won't be able to meet the spouse visa requirements. I think you need 3-4 trips before you are anything like ready for a commitment.

Simon1983 9th March 2018 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary D (Post 14142530)
Just to straighten out a couple of facts given incorrectly. Get married in the Philippines or get married in the Uk makes no difference, you can still divorce in the UK. You can try and bring her here on a fience visa but you will need to marry within 3 months so you can't just live together for a couple of year to see how it goes. You would need to go to the Philippines to do that. If you arn't able to meet the visa requirements for a fiance vise you won't be able to meet the spouse visa requirements. I think you need 3-4 trips before you are anything like ready for a commitment.

Apply as a partner or spouse
To apply as a partner, you and your partner both need to be 18 or over.

Your partner must also either:

be a British citizen
have settled in the UK (they have ‘indefinite leave to remain’ or proof of permanent residence)
have refugee status or humanitarian protection in the UK
You and your partner must intend to live together permanently in the UK after you apply.

What you’ll need to prove
You must be able to prove one of the following:

you’re in a civil partnership or marriage that’s recognised in the UK
you’ve been living together in a relationship for at least 2 years when you apply
you are a fiancé, fiancée or proposed civil partner and will marry or enter into a civil partnership in the UK within 6 months of arriving
You also need to prove you:

have a good knowledge of English
can financially support yourself and your dependants
If you don’t meet these requirements you may still be able to apply for a visa or extend your permission to stay if:

you have a child in the UK who is a British citizen or has lived in the UK for 7 years and it would be unreasonable for them to leave the UK
there would be very significant difficulties for you and your partner if you lived together as a couple outside the UK that couldn’t be overcome
it would breach your human rights to stop you coming to the UK or make you leave
If you’re applying as a fiancé, fiancée or proposed civil partner
You must prove that:

any previous marriages or civil partnerships have ended
you plan to marry or become civil partners within 6 months of arriving in the UK
You won’t be able to work during your engagement.

How long you can stay
You’ll get permission to stay for 2.5 years, or for 6 months if you’re applying as a fiancé, fiancée or proposed civil partner.

After this you’ll need to apply to extend your stay.


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