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mbeast 9th March 2018 09:42 AM

hi simon,

i'm not sure i understand the prove part....


What you’ll need to prove
You must be able to prove one of the following:

"you’re in a civil partnership or marriage that’s recognised in the UK
you’ve been living together in a relationship for at least 2 years when you apply
you are a fiancé, fiancée or proposed civil partner and will marry or enter into a civil partnership in the UK within 6 months of arriving"

does this mean we have to date for 2 years before we can apply for a UK visa or just prove we are or intend to marry?
also how do you mean permission to stay for 2.5 years or 6 months?


thank you for your help :)

mbeast 9th March 2018 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary D (Post 14142530)
Just to straighten out a couple of facts given incorrectly. Get married in the Philippines or get married in the Uk makes no difference, you can still divorce in the UK. You can try and bring her here on a fience visa but you will need to marry within 3 months so you can't just live together for a couple of year to see how it goes. You would need to go to the Philippines to do that. If you arn't able to meet the visa requirements for a fiance vise you won't be able to meet the spouse visa requirements. I think you need 3-4 trips before you are anything like ready for a commitment.

do i really need to go 3-4 times?

i was thinking of going over for a few weeks soon and see if i can extend my visa to stay a extra few months or so then hopefully apply for a visa for my fiance whilst i was there with her so she can return to the uk with me.

Gary D 9th March 2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mbeast (Post 14143290)
do i really need to go 3-4 times?

i was thinking of going over for a few weeks soon and see if i can extend my visa to stay a extra few months or so then hopefully apply for a visa for my fiance whilst i was there with her so she can return to the uk with me.

If you are going to stay for a few month than that's ok. The problem is with people going on a 2 week vacation then going back a few months/year later to marry.

Asian Spirit 9th March 2018 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mbeast (Post 14143290)
do i really need to go 3-4 times?

I was thinking of going over for a few weeks soon and see if i can extend my visa to stay a extra few months or so then hopefully apply for a visa for my fiance whilst i was there with her so she can return to the UK with me.

While every country has different laws, most Western countries can be almost alike in many areas.

For example, The United States requires you to come here once or prove you have been together somewhere and that you have a working relationship. Also, as US citizens we must apply for the fiancee visa AFTER we return home to the US. It Can NOT be done here in the Philippines. It is quite possible that it is the same for the UK.

Laws and conditions change all the time. Best thing to do is to pay a visit to your immigration agency office there closest to your home -- IN PERSON.The information is answers to legal questions and concerns so it is in your best interest to get the information from those agencies where you are to insure no mistakes are made ;)..

Simon1983 9th March 2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mbeast (Post 14143258)
hi simon,

i'm not sure i understand the prove part....


What you’ll need to prove
You must be able to prove one of the following:

"you’re in a civil partnership or marriage that’s recognised in the UK
you’ve been living together in a relationship for at least 2 years when you apply
you are a fiancé, fiancée or proposed civil partner and will marry or enter into a civil partnership in the UK within 6 months of arriving"

does this mean we have to date for 2 years before we can apply for a UK visa or just prove we are or intend to marry?
also how do you mean permission to stay for 2.5 years or 6 months?

thank you for your help :)

I took the text from gov website. I think it means you must either a) be married abroad, b) have been living together and in a relationship, or c) be intending to marry in the UK.

If a or b the partner can stay for up to 2.5 years but if c only 6 months. This means if you are intending to marry you get 6 months. Once you are married I guess there is another visa that you would be apply to apply for in order to extend. They are just saying you cant come over saying you'll be getting married in the next 2 years - should be within 6 months.

It's easy to extend your tourist visa if you want to stay in Philippines for an extended time.

Also worth looking at a tourist visa for your partner. A short stay visa to the UK is valid up to 6 months, which is definitely long enough for a first visit.

Why not stay in philippines a couple of months then apply for her to come to UK for a month or two? The problem is the tourist visa is just as strict as the longer term visas, especially if your partner doesn't work and has few ties to the Philippines (property, business, etc)

Gary D 9th March 2018 11:49 AM

I think you will find that the government is a bit leary about giving visit visas to people in a relationship with a UK citzen as they may try and change their visa status once thay are in the UK

bigpearl 9th March 2018 07:18 PM

We had to prove we had been living together in a de facto relationship for 12 months, condo lease in both names, joint bank account, mail addressed to both of us or individually but to the common address, photos over that time with friends and family, 2 preferably 3 sworn affidavits (888 form) from Australian citizens declaring our relationship as bona fide, my flights in and out of PH.

Then it gets interesting, extracts from our social media. FB, Messenger, Emails for the prior 9 months to us living together, some 350 pages printed off to add gravity to our application. Plenty of other bits and pieces as well. Then the fees, Now I believe in the vicinity of AU $ 7,000.00 plus a migration agents fee if you go that way.

This was a partnership visa and for Oz, not sure about the fiancé visa requirements nor how different things are in the UK but I am sure there are other contributors here that have done this and can offer correct advice and procedures.
As others have suggested take your time with this relationship, slow and steady wins the race.

BTW, welcome to the forum and good luck with your endeavours.

Cheers, Steve.

lefties43332 9th March 2018 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bigpearl (Post 14144890)
We had to prove we had been living together in a de facto relationship for 12 months, condo lease in both names, joint bank account, mail addressed to both of us or individually but to the common address, photos over that time with friends and family, 2 preferably 3 sworn affidavits (888 form) from Australian citizens declaring our relationship as bona fide, my flights in and out of PH.

Then it gets interesting, extracts from our social media. FB, Messenger, Emails for the prior 9 months to us living together, some 350 pages printed off to add gravity to our application. Plenty of other bits and pieces as well. Then the fees, Now I believe in the vicinity of AU $ 7,000.00 plus a migration agents fee if you go that way.

This was a partnership visa and for Oz, not sure about the fiancé visa requirements nor how different things are in the UK but I am sure there are other contributors here that have done this and can offer correct advice and procedures.
As others have suggested take your time with this relationship, slow and steady wins the race.

BTW, welcome to the forum and good luck with your endeavours.

Cheers, Steve.

which is totally outrageous...Aint many filipinos earning anything close to that...typical as they inherit everything they get,14 yrs there,,not worth it! Saw americans ripped off time and again in the military,,then u pay to get them overseas and when the money is exhausted they divorce and run for another...

fmartin_gila 10th March 2018 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mbeast (Post 14143290)
do i really need to go 3-4 times?

i was thinking of going over for a few weeks soon and see if i can extend my visa to stay a extra few months or so then hopefully apply for a visa for my fiance whilst i was there with her so she can return to the uk with me.

Doesn't work as simple as you have envisioned. You are contemplating entering a minefield. Do a lot of research and reading before you go further. Best of luck.

Fred

mbeast 10th March 2018 12:26 AM

i was hoping to find someone in the UK that has recently got a spouse visa to advise me how they went about it so i know what i would need to do and what to watch out for :)


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